Billy V

We've been running them for two season now and really like them a lot better than the original Dipsy Divers. I've never had one walk like you describe shakemsam. It almost sounds to me like you have the diver on the wrong side of the boat and its walking to the other side. Is that a possibility? The release tension screw sometimes requires that you hold the nut on the back so that you can get a good adjustment. That's about the only complaint that we had with them and once we figured that out we've been able to get good release tension adjustments.

I have a Switchback and love it too! Mathews makes a fabulous bow; you won't go wrong there!

I went with the Sikkens. I'll take some before and after pics and post them here. Thanks guys!

I have a little bit of exterior teak trim on my hardtop that needs some attention. It's turned gray and needs to be cleaned and brightened, but what do I put on it after I clean/brighten? I definitely don't want to put old-school teak oil back on it. I'm not up for removing it each year to re-finish it. I've heard that Sikkens makes a good teak protectant, and I've also heard about a product called Teak Guard. Does anyone have any experience with either of these products or another good one?

WOW!!! What a monster!

I have no idea why the fish lost weight in our case. I wasn't sitting there watching the fish for the entire 45 minutes we waited though, so something had to happen to cause it to lose weight....probably a combination what Paul mentioned....they will lose weight if one of those things occur. I don't believe that they just shrink after they die though.

Sorry you didn't get into the fish Linc. That 30# Ande should be fine for late season Kings. You can go with a fluoro leader if you want, or not....let the fish tell you what they want. Would love to get out for some woodcock...just let me know the time and place and I'll get Dad here!

This year, Yankee Troller and I had a Summer LOC King that we took in to get weighed right after we caught it. We weighed it in at like 8:15am. Right after we weighed it in, the weighmaster realized that we couldn't weigh it in officially until 9:00am, so we had to wait 45 mins before we could weigh it again. When we weighed it at 9am, it had lost 2 ounces. The fish sat for 45 minutes in a cooler full of cold water and it lost 2 ounces in that short amount of time. I couldn't believe that it lost that much weight in that amount of time. So yeah, waiting to come in probably cost you an ounce or two!

40 mph in a true 27 footer is gonna be a lot to ask. I have twin 350's in my Penn Yan and on its best day at WOT I'm not sure I can reach 40! Most of the smaller Penn Yan's (under 28') only have single engines, so that'll definitely slow you down. If you can deal with 32 or 33 mph then a Penn Yan 265 Pro Hunter, 262 Competitor, or 267 Sea Stalker with a 350 in it would be a good bet.

How did you end up making out on your trip up to FH Linc?

We ran the Sigg's Black/Silver Holo Trophy fly behind it on Saturday. I had glow & green beads in my harness and it looked awesome! I wish I had remembered to snap a pic of it.

We got out at the crack of noon today and fished till 5:30pm or so. We found an awful lot of bait and some occasional hooks east of the chute in 120-140FOW. Temp was down 70' and we had bites on our 500' copper, our 65' rigger, and our 80' rigger, all flasher/fly set-ups. White/blue seemed to be the bait of choice as we got bit on both a white double crush glow Spin. Dr. and an E-chip pulling either a Sigg's Bule Dolphin or Powder Hypnotist. We also got our favorite green double crush glow Spin Dr./Sigg's Green Hypnotist to fire today. The fish seemed to want it fairly slow again today...1.8-2.0mph on our Depth Raider. All in all another fairly slow afternoon, but I suspect that the guys that were able to stay out till dark might have gotten a few more bites as we were beginning to see some more hooks around that bait as we were pulling lines. This might be the last report for the season. I'm not sure we'll get out again before we have to pull the boat, but if we do I'll post it here as always.

7 Years ago today....

Not sure there is a disadvantage Dave. If you had a picture of the back of your boat it would definitely help us to make suggestions to you.

Dave, Mount one of those downriggers in each corner of the transom. I don't fish down that way so I really can't tell you specifically where to start, but at this time of year if you see boats in a pack there's a pretty good bet that they're on some fish. Keep that trolling speed somewhere around 2.0-3.0 mph (I assume you don't have a speed & temp probe and will be relying on SOG from your GPS) and you should be OK.

A Sigg's Rigs Green Hypnotist would sure look good behind that paddle!!

http://www.lakeontariounited.com/fishin ... c.php?t=39 Any good tackle store should have that spoon from several different manufacturers.

Never had that issue before keithg. I suppose that the amount of space that you have between the two diver rods would play a role in whether or not they get in each others way. But this way works for me and how we have our boat rigged. We just slide that low diver rod out and play the fish. It doesn't get in the way. I'd get confused if my deep diver was the high rod and vice-versa. I have enough trouble keeping it all together without having to remember that high=deep and low=shallow! LOL!! Had a great time with you guys too Walt!!

I've owned both Scotty's and Cannon's. I have the new Cannon Mag 10 HS (crazy fast!) on my boat now and would never go back to Scotty.

Screwy Louies has 'em in stock in FH and I saw 'em at Bass Pro recently too.

You guys might want to try the Walker Deeper Diver. The weight on the bottom ratchets and it clicks into each setting. We really like em a lot and haven't had any problems with the weight changing settings like we used to with a Dipsy Diver. To top it off, the Deeper Divers are $2-3 less than the Dipsy Divers.

We really like a 9'6" Daiwa Heartland Dipsy rod for our copper rods. For our purposes the longer rod allows us to put the rod in a high holder on our hardtop and we can get the line up off the water so that it won't slap when we let out less than the full copper length when we're running it on boards. Any shorter than 9'6" for us and we can't get the copper high enough up in the air. You might want to ask Yankee Troller what he uses though. He runs a shorter rod for his coppers and seems to really like them. I'm sure he'll chime in on this one.

We run two dipsys per side all the time, but we let them out the opposite of Gambler. I'm not saying his way is wrong, it's just different than the way we do it. I put my low (deep) diver out first and set it in the holder that puts the rod tip lowest to the water. We typically run the deep diver on a .5 or a 1 setting. Then I put my high (shallow) diver out and set it in the next holder towards the front of the boat and that holder is just a tad bit higher than the low diver. We run the high divers on either a 2.5 or a 3. We've settled on putting them in the water in this order so that the deepest diver goes in first then the high diver comes in on top of it. This has pretty much eliminated any tangles for us. Here's a great shot that shows you how we set our divers in the holders:

Rick, You run copper like you would leadcore...down the chute or off a planer board off to the side. It's it's own deployment device and achieves depth on its own without a diving aid. Wire is just the type of line that we run dipsys off of. It's not something you'd just let out to try and achieve any sort of depth with it. It allows you to go a lot deeper with a dipsy a than you can get with mono line plus it has no stretch so you can get the dipsy to release when it's down way deep. The dipsy is the deployment device and is a directional diver. Very few of us run them down the chute, altho some guys say they do. There's just too much stuff down there (riggers) that can get in the way in my opinion. They're best when run off to a side out and away from your riggers and other stuff that you have off the back of the boat (leadcore, copper).

More or less, yes. 45# copper will sink about 22' per 100' out, more or less. It varies greatly with speed and whether you're pulling a spoon or a paddle/fly combo. It's not uncommon to have 600' of 45# copper pulling a fly touch bottom in 135FOW when its on the inside of a slow turn. One of the great qualities with copper is that it rises and falls in the water column and adds some extra action to the lure. When you're using 30# wire line with a standard sized dipsy set on a #2, it's about a 3:1 ratio, so yes 150' out would get you down about 50 ft. Last weekend we had our Walker Deeper Diver set on a #2 and out 270ft and I trolled us into 90 FOW and it instantly hit bottom. So the Deeper Divers work at pretty close to the same ratio as the Dipsy Divers.