Yankee Troller

Yes, we use braid, but we are currently using the 150lb American Fishing Wire downrigger braid. It's the same diameter. The only 2 cons are fleas. If you fish the East end you will probably hate it. The other is if you have plastic spools the braid has been known to crack them. Going from 150lb cable to 250lb Power Pro you will gain nothing except losing some cable humm. If you stayed with 150lb braid you'd see a difference. We run 20lb sharks on it, and there is absolutely no problems doing so. It's all in how you want to fish. If you're a shallow fisherman it'd be a total waste. If you fish deep, a lot, you will gain some efficiency. When I say deep I mean 150'+.

Well said!

You're right Dave. The convictions and penalties need to go up! I'm not versed in politics, so how does such thing happen?

Then I guess we need to fight for more officers in the field to uphold the laws on the books. Let's band together on that! Sent from my XT1080 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

You're messed up bud! Sent from my XT1080 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Interesting.....I just learned yesterday there isn't a law saying you can't do this in NYS. I always thought it was illegal.

I love a good debate, but you guys are really just trying to grab at things. You want to talk #'s. I am involved in 2 events on the lake. A little over 400 fish were taken at the one throughout a 2 day period, and way less than that at the other. 99% of these fish harvested do not go to waste. We run charters many times for tourneys and those fish go to the clients. If we are fishing a tourney team I can bring those fish into work, and within minutes they are gone. 400 fish is nothing. That walks off the Salmon River daily October-November. Let's also bring up the fact the State and Federal govt. attend these events to gather data on our fishery. Half the teams (which these things probably average 30 boats) don't even catch a tourney limit 90% of the time. There is no damage being done in tourneys when we are stocking 4 million fish a year, and then adding natural reproduction to that figure. You guys are twisting a suggestion to death all because you're concerned about your numbers in the stream. You're more worried about your numbers than the health of the fish in that stream. I feel I'm a well rounded angler. I fish every season on the lake and tribs. You don't see me complaining about a fish in the trib getting hooked every day? Or sometimes twice a day? You think that's healthy for the fishery? You think that doesn't hurt them when it comes to what they are really there for......to spawn? But I'm not even going there! Again, like other posters above, instead of offering up a solution you want to dig at other things, and think this is a personal issue I have. Maybe it's the fact you don't see this happening in your region of the lake. Guys stock pilling freezers full of eggs, and not consuming the fish is flat out unethical, and unsportsmanlike. It's happening a lot more than you may know.

I'm not for either of those regs bud. Sorry. The fishery is here for the people. It's put and take. I just want to curb the un-ethical taking.

Hey Ken, I will be contacting everyone who sponsored last year to see if they are in again for this year. If you have someone new in mind we'd love to add more!

Every vehicle out the is adding to the pollution. You can't single out one over another. Yet, still no solution to a growing problem about our fishery. Sent from my XT1080 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

I wish you were as adamant about the fishery, and protecting it, as you are against coming up with a solution.

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Yea, they can rip apart my idea of a solution, but I haven't heard any of the guys against it come up with a way to curb all the senseless killing that is happening. I guess not acknowledging it, or being selfish takes precedence to being ethical.

You don't think with more fish in the system competing for food that it wouldn't attract people to come up and fish? Explain the less fishing opportunity excuse you're giving?

I hear ya loud and clear! Basically, you're selfish and ignorant. Great ethics to pass down to future generations! Honestly, it was just a thought on my part, and most folks here seem to agree with me. I appreciate your feedback though. Sent from my XT1080 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

There's always going to be people evading paying taxes, but more than the majority follow the law.

I'd like to repeat that I have no problem with people still using Salmon eggs. So using eggs would still be an option.

You're so far off the point it's ridiculous! You obviously don't know me. I stream fish A LOT when the boat goes away. This has nothing to do with Lake fishing. It would benefit EVERYONE. You are mislead if you think the Lake guys are putting a hurting on these fish. It's a big lake out there! Look at the DEC numbers. REC guys catching 3 fish per trip. Charters catching 8 fish per trip. I'm gonna be honest with you and say that most charters out there probably shouldn't be chartering if it came down to fishing ability. They just can't catch them, but there is more to it than just catching fish. Not to mention a lot of the charter businesses out there are declining. Put those numbers against the fish that walk off in a stream and river for 6 months and I guarantee more leave the bank of the river than on a boat. The charter and guide businesses are going to be there with or without this reg. It's about protecting a resource. I want people to keep fish for consumption. I DON'T want to lower limits. I want to stop the waste! This is no different than a guy killing a buck just for the antlers and leaving the meat to rot. Is that ethical? No, and either is killing a fish for the eggs and tossing the rest of it. The PROs far out weigh the CONs here, and if you can't see that you're being selfish. I've talked with avid stream guys, and they also see the benefit this would have on the fishery as a whole. The government has already stepped in. You can't sell Trout Eggs because of the same issue. People killing trout just to sell the egg. This would be an extension of a reg already in place. I'll list the PROs again, and please tell me which one(s) you think are not valid: More food in the stream for the fish throughout the stream season More angler opportunities throughout the stream season to catch fish Less careless killing of fish More opportunity for natural reproduction

There are so many techniques and lure options out there now days I think people will still be very successful. I'm with you though.....I LOVE a jig bite!

I don't think we need to go that far Brian. Salmon are entering the rivers to spawn and die. I don't see why we couldn't use their eggs.

I want to stress Im not supporting lower limits. I want people to cook what they catch if they so choose. Especially with this being a put and take fishery. I'm against waste!