Yankee Troller

Every vehicle out the is adding to the pollution. You can't single out one over another. Yet, still no solution to a growing problem about our fishery. Sent from my XT1080 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

I wish you were as adamant about the fishery, and protecting it, as you are against coming up with a solution.

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Yea, they can rip apart my idea of a solution, but I haven't heard any of the guys against it come up with a way to curb all the senseless killing that is happening. I guess not acknowledging it, or being selfish takes precedence to being ethical.

You don't think with more fish in the system competing for food that it wouldn't attract people to come up and fish? Explain the less fishing opportunity excuse you're giving?

I hear ya loud and clear! Basically, you're selfish and ignorant. Great ethics to pass down to future generations! Honestly, it was just a thought on my part, and most folks here seem to agree with me. I appreciate your feedback though. Sent from my XT1080 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

There's always going to be people evading paying taxes, but more than the majority follow the law.

I'd like to repeat that I have no problem with people still using Salmon eggs. So using eggs would still be an option.

You're so far off the point it's ridiculous! You obviously don't know me. I stream fish A LOT when the boat goes away. This has nothing to do with Lake fishing. It would benefit EVERYONE. You are mislead if you think the Lake guys are putting a hurting on these fish. It's a big lake out there! Look at the DEC numbers. REC guys catching 3 fish per trip. Charters catching 8 fish per trip. I'm gonna be honest with you and say that most charters out there probably shouldn't be chartering if it came down to fishing ability. They just can't catch them, but there is more to it than just catching fish. Not to mention a lot of the charter businesses out there are declining. Put those numbers against the fish that walk off in a stream and river for 6 months and I guarantee more leave the bank of the river than on a boat. The charter and guide businesses are going to be there with or without this reg. It's about protecting a resource. I want people to keep fish for consumption. I DON'T want to lower limits. I want to stop the waste! This is no different than a guy killing a buck just for the antlers and leaving the meat to rot. Is that ethical? No, and either is killing a fish for the eggs and tossing the rest of it. The PROs far out weigh the CONs here, and if you can't see that you're being selfish. I've talked with avid stream guys, and they also see the benefit this would have on the fishery as a whole. The government has already stepped in. You can't sell Trout Eggs because of the same issue. People killing trout just to sell the egg. This would be an extension of a reg already in place. I'll list the PROs again, and please tell me which one(s) you think are not valid: More food in the stream for the fish throughout the stream season More angler opportunities throughout the stream season to catch fish Less careless killing of fish More opportunity for natural reproduction

There are so many techniques and lure options out there now days I think people will still be very successful. I'm with you though.....I LOVE a jig bite!

I don't think we need to go that far Brian. Salmon are entering the rivers to spawn and die. I don't see why we couldn't use their eggs.

I want to stress Im not supporting lower limits. I want people to cook what they catch if they so choose. Especially with this being a put and take fishery. I'm against waste!

The only reason you wouldn't like this regulation is for selfish ones. More Pros to add to the pot: More "food" for the fish to eat throughout the Winter with more eggs in the system More chance for Natural Reproduction More angling opportunities in the streams We don't need to close down river or restrict access. This is a great fishery all around. Why not protect it?

I don't care about crowds. I don't care about people who keep fish to eat. I don't care how you guys fish for them. I'm just sick of seeing fish roped just so people can get roe. With all the techniques out there these days, cures, beads, flies, etc why do we need to kill a fish just so we can catch more!?!?!? Sent from my XT1080 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

No one should tell you how to fish. If you're by the book use a pin, spin, or fly set-up. That's not my point here. I just hate seeing pictures of freezers full of roe when I know the fish themselves are not being consumed. All that so they can use it to catch and kill more fish just for the roe. It's senseless killing. It was just a thought.

You have it all wrong! I'm against SENSELESS killing of fish. I have NO issues with people eating whatever they catch. This will save the fish for EVERYONE. People in the streams and Lake.

Not a great mentality, but you speak the truth. There will always be someone breaking rules, but the majority of people follow them. Hey, the state stopped the sale of Trout eggs by retailers. This really isn't much different. Salmon eggs work just fine, and those fish are coming to die.

Salmon eggs are twice the size of Trout eggs. If they can measure a leader or hook gap they should be able to point out egg size. Let's not short change these officers. Most were all sportsmen before they become DEC officers. This is a problem EVERYWHERE in NY. Even Steel eggs in the Spring.

There'd be no reason for them to if they cant fish with them in NY. Very easy to enforce. You're not allowed to have Trout eggs on your person.

I don't see why you couldn't harvest trout. People buy licenses. You can keep what the regs allow. I just hate seeing senseless killing. I have no issues with someone who wants to eat the fish.

The DEC is in the stage where they are asking us for proposals on regulation changes. One thing I think would help both stream and lake anglers is to restrict the use of eggs in NY streams and rivers to Salmon eggs only. This way Trout are not wasted just for the eggs. Let's face it the Salmon are running and dying. The Trout will do that multiple times throughout its life. I have no problems with people keeping their limit to consume, but to take the eggs and discard is unethical. What do you guys think? Sent from my XT1080 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

I'm all for MORE Salmon, but I am against them coming from Altmar hatchery. I think this is a great way to get our message across, but lets send the right message. From Rochester West I think our best bet would be to have 1/2 of each ports Salmon stock come from Canada's hatchery system. The DEC wants to bring in Andy Todd at these meetings to show what a great relationship the US and Canada have then prove it to us! Increase the stocking, but lets put more burden on Canada! They rape our Kings and Steel all Summer long, but they put in such a minimal amount. The other great thing about the Canadian product, and this comes from watching tourney results, it's like the Salmon of the 80s and 90s. They stage off any creek, stream, or canal. These don't know about Salmon River water so they would never head to the East end of Lake Ontario and sit in pizz warm water. I'd go so far as to let Altmar stock more fish from Rochester East to see if they can improve that fishery earlier in the season. Vince is right....NO other fish makes people travel like the King Salmon.

Option 1 or 2 Al. I don't think Chirp is gonna put any more fish in the boat for us, but some of that stuff looks pretty darn cool I've run the B60, and I know Thrillseeker does. It's a solid ducer. However, your best picture will still be from a traditional thru hull with a fairing block. 1000 watt is too much, and the cone angle is too narrow. You're missing out on seeing more fish, but on the other hand you're frying the ones you do see! Do you have a trail of cooked Salmons behind your boat?