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Grab the Tuna Toms drags, but unfortunately he wont be selling anything to anyone for another 15 days according to his website. Once you learn how to do one you should be golden.
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Kickers look gay on trolling boats! Not to mention they get in the way of netting hanging off the back of the boat.
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That'd be a stupid move! Are you sure they aren't putting in a launch where the new city docks will be (North of Cheeburger Cheeburger)?
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Landshark.....maybe if you worked during the day instead of LOU'n we could have grabbed a bite to eat last night. You only need 8hr days if your actually working!
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So what yopur saying is a dumb Salmon is worth more than your life? Your family is OK with yoiu risking your life for a dumb Salmon? Not to mention you put others at risk when they have to go out looking for you in wicked conditions all for a dumb Salmon. Do you get the point? It's a dumb Salmon! Sit at the dock and meet some new friends, or go support a local tackle shop. Just becasue we have a larger boat doesn't mean we can lose respect for Lake Ontario. Not to mention your more likely to break and ruin your equipment you've worked so hard to aquire. Reguardless of a 4 hour drive it's not worth it.
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Mel and I went out to do a little derby fishing. Although the wind was whipping we figured we’d give it a go. We were greeted with 2-4’s which were fish-able. We set down in 60’ of water right out front and deployed our three Cannon Downriggers and two wires. As we were setting up it was building, but the screen looked promising. It was tough to keep speed. I slammed the corner rigger down to 55’ with a Stinger Chrome Green Dot E-Chip/A-TOM-MIK shredded Sweet Pea, and then let out my wire. When that was done I went up to the helm to get the speed right as Mel had just set the center rigger with our Moor Sub-Troll on it. As I was taking her back from 2.5 to 2.0 at the ball I hear line ripping. I turn to see my corner rigger stretched backbehind the boat. I yelled over the whipping wind at this point “babe you want to catch that Salmon!?!?!?†She jumped on the rod with a big ol’ smile on her face and brought it to the net. It wasn’t a derby fish, but we quickly realized those 2-4s are now 6-8’s and growing fast. We tried to fish through it, but it just wasn’t gonna happen as it was building. It wasn’t long and we were pulling lines and heading in. There were some big dogs out there on the ride back in, and I was a little nervous as that might be the biggest water the Yank has seen. When we got back to the dock I was informed by Paul C of Free Spirit that a guy in a 17’ Lund was next to him when he picked up and ran in. We were 10 minutes behind him, and never seen the Lund. As we sat at the dock wondering what happened to this guy there was still no sight of him. A good while later Paul sees him putting into the mouth of the creek and confronts the guy. Apparently, his big motor died. Paul told him he was stupid to even be out there when it was 3-5’s and the old guy tells him he is 70 years old and he doesn’t care if he dies out there! Some people are just amazing! Anyway, the W/NW winds were pushing some warm water in there, and we had 74 degrees most of the way down the water column. The screen was good when we picked up in the 55-80’ range.
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WOW.....what a tank!
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Sandy 8/27/12
Yankee Troller replied to GAMBLER's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Boo! There is a lot of time to fish still! This early bow season is pissing me off! It's like we have to scramble in between hobbies now. -
For sale are three (3) Cannon Digi-Troll 10 downriggers. All three come with everything you would find in a brand new box. The cable on two of them is brand new. These downriggers are always covered when not in use. Would prefer that these all go together. $2,700 - Retail on these would be over $3,900. Cannon Description: The Digi-Troll 10 features a full backlit keypad with an an integrated backlit LCD screen which gives you full control of your downrigger. Raise and lower the weight, adjust Positive Ion Control, or program the amount of line you're using for better line counter accuracy. Cycle the weight up and down at preset intervals and depths, or use Bottom Track to automatically keep your bait at a preset distance from the bottom. Store up to five different preset depths for easy reference. Even display data from your IntelliTroll Speed & Temp probe directly on the downrigger screen. Ability to control up to six downriggers at once from your Humminbird fishfinder with the CannonLink Accessory or link multiple DT10s together for multiple unit bottom tracking. Fastest retrieval rate on the market (250 feet per minute) and a Short-Stop feature that protects the boat from swinging weight. Includes mounting base, low-profile swivel base, and a telescopic boom that extends from 24" to 53". Digi-Troll is built tougher and smarter to make you a better angler. Cannon Edge Design features fewer moving parts, one-piece composite construction, a redesigned boom end, protected circuit boards, and easy access to the spool, switches, plugs and mounting nuts. Features: *250-feet-per-minute retrieval rate is the fastest in the industry *Intergraded Control Screen provides illuminated keypad controls with large backlit LCD screen. Also can display IntelliTroll speed and temp ratings, and lets you raise and lower the weight, adjust Positive Ion Control, or program the line amounts *Revolutionary Control Features allow you to cycle the weight up and down at preset intervals and depths, or use Bottom Track to automatically keep your bait at a preset distance from the bottom. You can even store up to five different preset depths for easy refernce. *Short-Stop - at the push of button, Short Stop automatically retrieves the weight and stops it at the waterline, so you can get back to fishing without worrying about boat damage from swinging weights *WaterLine Zero lets you keep your weight at a set depthe below the surface *Adjustable Positive Ion Control (PIC) allows adjustment of the amount of voltage emitted. PIC emits positive ions from the cable to combat the negative ions from your boat, creating a fish-attracting field of energy *Five adjustable retrieve and deploy speeds *Cannon Link compatible - control up to six downriggers at once from your Humminbird fishfinder. CannonLink lets you cycle your Digi-Troll 10 up and down, bottom track, raise and lower the weight, or adjust Positive Ion control. (CannonLink accessory sold separately) *Heavy-duty telescopic boom extends from 24" to 53" *Digital depth counter *Includes two dual axis adjustable rod holders *Easy spool access *Includes mounting base and low-profile swivel base *Includes 2 line releases and 400 feet of 150-lb test stainless steel cable *IP68 waterproof connections *Integrated ball storage hook *20-lb weight capacity *Corrosion-resistant construction *Limited lifetime warranty http://store.cannondownriggers.com/products/390763/Digi-Troll_10
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Yeah, 2x or stronger. We have been using a VMC Spark Point 4x this year after we were unable to get the Owners. Very impressed with that hook. I have to believe your prolly a little tight on that drag too.
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August 24th - We left the dock about 5:30 and headed for the staging kings we heard were awaiting us. The set-up was pretty simple as my brother was running without me. So, he ran our three Cannon Downriggers, two wires, and a 300 copper down the chute. We would work 50-100fow right out front most of the day. There was a good early morning bite, and then it turned to a slow pick. The 300 copper with a Moonshine Shelly Snack was a hot set-up. A Stinger UV Frog E-Chip/A-TOM-MIK UV 190 was also a great combo on the deep rigger. We picked a few Browns on our Dreamweaver Sea Sick Waddlers as well. August 25th Morning - No need to go find fish when we had a decent pick the morning before. We headed to the same waters, and the fish were still there which is to be expected at this time of the year. My brother says he ran the same program as the day before. Our three Cannon downriggers went down with flasher/fly combos on the corners, Dreamweaver Sea Sick Waddlers on the center rigger, flasher/fly combos on the divers and a Moonshine Shelly Snack on the 300 copper. The Moonshine Shelly Snack, available at Captains Cove, remained a top producer. Especially early in the morning. The Dreamweaver Livewire Spin Doctor/A-TOM-MIK Hammer was a decent combo as well as the Stinger UV Frog E-Chip/A-TOM-MIK UV190. A few steelies came to play today as well. The bite was decent in the morning, but slowed quickly. It was a tougher day for most out there, but we were able to grab a few fish for our guys. One was a nice upper twenties Chinook (King) Salmon. August 25th Afternoon - We left the dock around 4pm, headed out front, and pointed the boat East. We fished the Flats to the Glass house most of the afternoon, and we hit fish instantly. The action wasn’t fast and furious, but is was a nice slow pick on fish the entire afternoon. We would start off going 3 for 3 before dropping the next 4 matures, but we would end on a good note. Another simple program consisting of our three Cannon downriggers, two wires, and a 300 copper. We got some big paddles going too which were almost dead for us the last few outings. The stinger 11†Hammertime E-Chip was good with an A-TOM-MIK Mirage fly behind it. The Dreamweaver Livewire Spin Doctor/A-TOM-MIK Hammer fly was good as well. We fished 50-80fow and had most of the gear within 30’ of the bottom. The east troll was our best, because coming back west we couldn’t slow down enough. August 26th - We left somewhat in the dark and headed out to the 60’ mark. We hop-scotched a few boats and began to deploy our gear. We sent down our three Cannon downriggers, two wires, a 10 color, and a 300 copper. The picture was great on set-up, but as it normally does it petered out as the sun rose into the sky. Meat went down on one corner rigger, a Stinger UV Frog/A-TOM-MIK UV 190 on the other, and a pair of Dreamweaver Sea Sick Waddlers on the center rigger. We ran a Legendary Wonder Dot SmartFish/A-TOM-MIK Glow Blue Hammer on one wire, and a Stinger Hammertime E-Chip/A-TOM-MIK Mirage on the other. A Lyman plug on the 10 color, and a Moonshine Shelly Snack kn the 300 copper. That was the morning set-up, and the first rod to fire was the 10 color with the Lyman on it. It was a nice Steelie, but not what we were looking for. We never got that crazy morning bite, and the screen would come and go. The best screen was from the Glass House to Devils Nose. We would hit a fish about every 30 minutes. Most of which were matures, but we did do three steelies, and two Lake Trout in there. It was an E-Chip kinda day. I don’t know why, but they wouldn’t touch a Spin Doctor or a SmartFish. So we loaded up on the chips and went to work. A Stinger Hammertime E-Chip/A-TOM-MIK Glow Blue Hammer took out big guy out 150’ on a diver set on a 2 around 11:30am. Meat took a couple of bites, and a pair of Moonshine Green Shorts Mupped on the center rigger was good for 4 or 5 bites.
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8/23 Salmon
Yankee Troller replied to shameless's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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My reasoning for less blow back is netting fish. If your riggers and lines are blown back bad it makes it tougher to net, and gives the fish more opportunities to run under a cable and crack you off. Do not angle your ducer back just so you can see your downrigger balls. All that will do is give you false distances to fish as well. Some days currents are bad and your cranking and you wont see them. Slow the boat a little and they will show up so you have an idea of where they are. After you confirm where they are get back up to speed. It also helps if you have dual frequency transducers. I know Lowrance and Humminbird come with 83/200 ducers. These have wider beams than the 50/200 I am running on my bird, so you should be able to pick up them balls easier. It could be a settings thing too.
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Cold Steel might be the hottest tournament boat on the lake, and they fish out of Oswego. Hat Trick, TK, and Tall Tails (member of LOU) are other great charters that comes to mind. Let them know up front you want a charter to learn how to catch a few fish. Maybe go out on an afternoon trip for less money just to learn some basics and ask questions. They might even let you rig under their supervision. Just be upfront and honest with them.
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Copper Question
Yankee Troller replied to alex1young's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
Yup.....tried that.....still not far enough outside to make me comfortable. I don't like tangles even though Prisco says your not fishing if your not tangling!