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Ray there are 4 NBK which color do you use ???? http://www.lakemichiganangler.com/store ... ashers.htm

Ok Ray.............the way they come right out of the package is the way you run them !! Thanks now................. Here a picture of one I have rigged up the fly just happen to be 22" give or take a .25" from the back of the tail hook to the top of the loop. Now I added a cross lock snap to make it easy to change fly's. Is this add lenght to be figured into the fly ???? and here is a picture of the ones I have, two on the bottom left were the one's I picked up last year when I talked with you at Catfishcreek. The rest you can see were like $8.95................ any input on which ones I should put that UV tape on ????

Yes they are Ray, I also have some tape to put on a few. The tape is super uv pearl transparent, super uv pearl non transparent and cracked ice uv....................would a picture of the ones I have help ????

I have a fair working program with two brands of dodgers , 3 brands of flashers but the spinny's that I had for a few year now I just got wet this week. I added some hardware that made putting fly's on easier but I see many hole adjustment kind of like the Beachold flashers have just wondering if you guys that have used these for some time could help me out with my learning curve or point me to a web page. Thanks

Thanks Zebedee , I took the day off today so you should feel better but I'll be back out solo in the morning..................

6-10-2008 We went back out a little after 5:00 pm tonight with Tangledline from Sanders BB. We picked up two lakers and lost some thing on the rigger spoon combo that been so good and also lost one on the sliver bti-fly. The biggest was one at 27" which gave me my three fish limit for the day. That one came on the bti the other one on the dibsy rig and Pete's doctor up spoon..............Pete's came up with some good taped spoon over the winter that has worked well up here for trout. Tangledline landed the dispy fish so you know who lost the other one................ .................me and Pete............................. Dave it was fun fishing with ya hope to do it again soon.............and welcome to this site.

6-10-2008 We had the lines in the water on the west side before 6:45 am. Wind out of the south with a good chop we had bait pods on the screen and very few ark of fish surface temp was 57.8*. I changed a my side of the boat out but Pete kept his stuff in the water. I finnaly picked up a 23" laker on a Michigan stinger tourney winner spoon 70' back 25' down. Hooked up again with this spoon and lost it. Then my rigger fired with a sliver bti with Pearl Glow fly back 15' down 92', we lost this one at the boat. Got it to fire again and landed a 25" laker for the 2nd one in the box, and fire later on one that I lost. Pete's diver fired two times mono rig back 110' with a panter martin lake troll and a spoon Pete had dotored up with tape. The first rip was hard heavy fish that came off , back thu area and it fired again but this time he get bit off or the gill plate on a pike sliced it. Last one for the box also came on the diver rig with a Michgan stinger spoon black with some pruble tape. We were 3 for 8 today........................................ wind changed direction 5 times we ended up about 4 mile north of where we started and the surface temp was 62* the down temp was up by + 7* the down speed was NUTS today never saw any thing like it. Most often when trolling north with the wind when you change and head south back thru the spot you just picked up a fish you have to bump up the the trolling motor to keep the same down speed...................not today it was the other way around !!!!!!!

Ray tell them to read your contract and the next time THEY break it you are going else where and will NOT be paying the $175 X 3 because they are NOT giving you what you are paying for so the breached (sp) it. :shock:

6-10-2008 We gave the west side a go today ran about three + miles south of the showboat area. Lots of bait like there was during the derby and same problem just could not get any thing to fire.After working the shoals for a while tried a hard west - to east troll and pick up first laker on a BTI pearl squirrel - with a blue ice glo-see-um fly back 10' and down 82' out over 160' FOW. Picked next one up a mono-diver rigg out 95' with a panther-martin lake troll and black spoon with scale tape on back sliver cup lost him at the boat.Diver fired again and lost that one. Then the deep rigger 82' down pops one again and we loose that one. Now the sky is getting a little darker so I put the weather channel on. Nothing new on there but the fish have shut down ...........then BOOM...........OK time to get off the water. When we pull back into the launch area the park guys tells us there is a severe weather warning out with possible tornados. I said well that great the radio didn't have that on there 30 minute or so ago, he said they just started it with the past few minutes. Anyway we got off and almost had the boat covered when it hit us.

Put in at 6ish fished south of the launch then worked north from there. Wind SW , surface temp 61* , 49* 50' down LOTS of floating weeds. Never picked any thing up till we wer north of the point then picked up two laker down 40' back 25' with a dodger fly rig both in a 100 yard area over 70' of water. That area seem to go dead so were worked above the next point again LOTS of floating weeds the wind changed out of the west so we ran straight across lake about a mile south of Long Point set up a trolled north. Picked up one laker and a landlock laker was on a spin-doctor with a big weeeine flyback 20' down 80' the landlock was down 20' back 60' on a clean stinger spoon not sure of the name but all the paint is gone off this one now and the other one is in bad shape ,by this time it was about 1:30 pm so we pulled lines and ran in. Laker were 21",25.5" and 28" , landlock was 18".

Just a thought............did you check the brake/ I had mine too tight one time and that's how it acted.............

I saw the most bait of the season so far on Sunday when I fished the west side. A few miles south of Severne (sp?) to north of the Showboat 80' seem to hold a lot of the upper end and 120' to 140' on the lower. When we were jigging we were on aplie of it for a long time but never pick up a fish till were got out of the bait..................

Saturday: on water at 7:15am first fish on rigger down 60' back 10' on a fly rig over 220' of water 4#+ brown trout. Same rigger picked up a 25" laker over 100' of water and the 6.42# brown working a shaol. Inline board took two pike 100' back small spoon first spoon was ruin by pike it was white cup grey back lined with black with a eye.........replaced with one close to that one that took the next pike. The 3 color core took a rip but we lost that fish also a small spoon. Picked up a dink laker on down rigger down 72' back 15' on a fly. We picked the bigger brown up and headed off the water to weight it in at 11:30 am. Back out at 4:15 pm and all we picked up was a small laker off the same 60' rig above. Sunday: Ran across lake and south of where Ray was launching set up by 7:30 am nothing going for us had a good screen lots of bait but could not get any thing to fire did foul hook one small laker bringing up a deep rigger fly rig. Pulled riggers and worked to top with two inline boards and the core + one flat line down the prop-wash. Worked from 20' out to 80'. Saw some marks in and around the 72' and wind was down so we gave the jigging a go for a while. I lost 4 or so and landed one 23" for the table , my crew missed two each or more then the sun had us beat up so we went in about 2:30 now. Didn't go back out later just put took care of the sunburn.... Monday: On the water and set up by 6:15 am working the east shore running some meat head on the inlines and core. Switched out the two fly riggs that have been near dead the past two days and dropped down dodger-peanut rigs. We picked up 4 lakers off these rigs down 92' back 15' and lost three none of any size. That was about it for us we came in just around noonish.

Yep !!! Way to go Joe and anyone else from here that hit the board..............

Ray here is the leader board on line............ go here..... http://www.senecamarine.com/ ..................click on ....... Derby & Contest...............then Click here for last years results cclick on the here...........a new window will open up...........then click on the Current Winners.............and you'll have the most updated board..............

Ray we didn't do good today thought we would run for rainbows and landlocks but all we got was one dink laker. Then we gave No Clues style a go and picked up a small laker for dinner jigging. One more shot in the morning I'm running MEAT................ ........still hanging on for 4th on the brown............ 2008 National Lake Trout Derby Results As Of Sunday May 25, 2008 at 7:04PM LT Frederick R Reifsteck Jr. MA South Wales 13.11 LT James S Morse TA Lansing 12.53 LT Jerry M Perrin MA Clifton Springs 12.29 LT Justin J Campbell TA Naples 11.86 LT Michael T Kotowicz MA Branchport 11.26 LT James Chapman SR Clifton Springs 11.11 BT Jason A Harris MA Canandaigua 8.04 BT Bruce R Stenglein MA East Rochester 8.02 BT Paul T Powers MA Moravia 7.73 BT Edward Colegrove MA Montrose 6.42 BT Chad M Matwiejow TA Beaver Dams 6.19 RT Bruce W Miller MA Gillett 6.14 RT Francis A Kastreva MA Mt Top 5.44 RT Dan J Irland MA Macedon 5.41 RT Thomas S Duszynski SR Romulus 5.35 RT Frank J Geremski MA Liverpool 4.75 LL William T Frisk Jr. MA Beaver dams 6.63 LL Thomas A Willower MA Geneva 6.5 LL Dale T Gray Jr. MA Stroudsburg 6.47 LL Jennifer M McNeal FE Monroeton 5.19 LL Jason L Martin MA Waterloo 5.12 MA Stephen P May MA Bloomfield 11.04 MA Joseph R Bergen MA Lock Haven 10.73 MA Matthew J Bliss MA Newark 10.7 MA Michael T Sallotti MA Newark 10.5 MA John W Cosgrove MA Geneva 10.1 FE Shirley A Ellis FE Dansville 10.53 FE Katherine L Kotowicz FE Branchport 8.68 FE Marlea M Mitchell FE Geneva 8.58 FE Joanna Macinskas FE Rochester 8.04 FE Jennifer L Ruocco FE Alpine 7.89 SR John W Davis SR Conesus 9.95 SR David C McMillan SR Geneva 9.89 SR Donald E Beusman SR Rushville 9.39 SR Siegfried W Poreda SR Penn Yan 9.34 SR Kenneth L Marsh SR Geneva 9.23 TA Lindsey R Kaiser TA Buffalo 8.96 TA Ray Thomas TA Bloomfield 8.54 TA Jacob D Doty TA Watkins Glen 8.28 TA Christopher S Linkner TA Geneva 8.17 TA Lindsey R Kaiser TA Buffalo 7.98 JV Brenden M Kauder JV Clifton Springs 10 J Daniel J Jackson J10 Moravia 9.18 JV Sarah M Ingalls JV Syracuse 8.46 JV Noah T Lahr JV Geneva 8.19 JV Alan Mack JV Naples 7.9

We put a 6.42# brown trout on the board this morning and I was talking to Joe (No Clue) on the cell phone and he put a 10# ?? laker on the board. The biggest laker at this time (1ish) was 12.53#...........we thought they said my weight was 6.92# but see it at 6.42# next time I'll look myself....

Re-bar , a torch , vice and a can of black paint................ Great nephew with his first king and the re-bar fish holder doing it's thing........ I have the lenght but you can make them any way or size you want..........

Just found out last night I'll have two people with me and we will be out of Lodi Point................best of luck everyone.

Check where the antenna joins , just push it togather and make sure it's clean. I used liquid tape one time and had a lot of trouble like your talking about some of it just messed the conection up at the probe. So check Bad Habit idea out looking for any thing that would lessen your conection.

Lake George 4-9,10,11 Made our trip to Rogers Rock Campground on Lake George N.Y. fishing for lake trout was tough. Only picked up one per outing a 22" sub legal on the first day (23" legal size) 120' down 15' back on a yellow/green dodger and glow peanut. Ran the BTI's but could not get them lakers interested in the fly's. On the next outing we picked up a 26" laker going 5.5 pounds 45' down over 90' of water back 50' and a clean spoon sliver/orange stripe on both edges. We also picked up two smb on that spoon @ 13" and 16". The next outing we picked up one 23.25" laker 135' down on the same dodger combo above. Both times we had to bang the bottom with the rigger ball to wake them up. This was the best weather we had for this trip. Still lots of fun back at camp chatting with people you only get to see once a year at this meet of the NAFC.

Thanks Ray..............

Any thing "new" on this ??

Nice fish !! He made them with a diver program in mind, so yes they are made for that. I filp a coin for the middle rigger....lol.....when dropping them down on a diver they will pull some what away from the boat. You know how some of those finned attractors almost get you tangled up these drop down nice.

It's a down size from his 12" ... B= Big T= 10 I= Inch In on picture above you can see one, it a rotating flasher that has a nice "kick" to it. Made by Capt. John King.......if you do a search you can find his site or I can pm it to you if you want. :?: