I don't make my own lake trolls but bought them. Wildman put me on to them and a peanut rig when he had his bait & tackle shop at the end of Cayuga. He told me to drop my balls down to the bottom of the lake and run two boat lengths and I'd have a laketrout on. I stop back in to tell him how I made out told I had some good news and bad news.The good news was his system worked but the bad news was I had to go 6 boat lengths. He asked how long my boat was ,I told him 20.5' his eye's lit up and said that's it your boat shorter then mine and then a BIG belly laugh!!!!!!!!!!!!! Any way don't rule out the peanut rig (Wobble-n-Glo) also made by Worden's Lures Yakima Bait Co. You can get more or less action out of the peanut by the line you use to tie them up.