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Nice report Nick Nick have you sent any MS back ? I put a clear coat on a few that I use all the time to see if they will last longer than two or three fish.....

If your getting bit on your dipsy and not your riggers then streach your leads out on the rigger because of what you just said. The short leads are getting the agrasive (sp) fish. When I run lead core it's by it self , off a board or down rigger. Just seems to me your are losing all the action that a core would have in the water on turns , waves and such where it would rise and fall...... I set my depthfinder to read just the top 90' of the water collum that way every thing is not pushed togather I can adjust it anywhere I would want. Thats sound close you could drop down even more for lakers as far as 100' this time of year. When/if you get the seperation on your depthfinder you will be better able to see and fish those marks that are too close togather now..............have fun !!!

...... .......glade you found it.....darn kids... .......here try this.......

Humningbird fishfinder ? If it was only doing it out deep look up my post and the setting they gave me to change. Mine is a humningbird 788ci and works fine now with help from YT and a few other folks on here. If you run your downriggers with a fixed slider you can cover 4 differnt depths at once. on the same rod/reel ? Too much for spoons not enough for FF. Spoons on Seneca I run folo-leader materail 10# , my leads are longer than most but I had a hard time getting bit in shallow (less than 50' ) mine are 30' to 60'. I start the season at 55' to 60' and cut back as nicks,twist or bad spots show up and at around 30' replace it. Use the 30' for slider or stacker leaders. On your FF you want a stiff line so the flasher/dodger whips it giving it action. I don't know any thing about the copper stuff , but my wire dipsy I'll pick a point say 150' and let more out till I get bit or 300' out. Pull it and put some other combo down.............

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Here a picture from my grand/slam on the 7/30/2011 ......just cut my head off and you'll have all 4...............

Weed were spotty , heavy over 500'......not bad from 400' into 70' but most points/shoals had lots on one side or the other.

Got the snunk out but not by much.............. three laker today 1@ 67' 2 @ 60' all on the same spoon.

It's hard to say , I went as far north today on the west side to long Point. The more I worked in that direction the worst the weeds got and the down temp dropped , and not many fleas. A few days ago we had some very stiff north winds explains the temp. explains the weeds around long point..................yesterday we had heavy west winds then north west back to west . Explains the fewer weed on the west side around showboat area but not why more farther north. This morning we had the normal south winds. I fished the east side around noon normaly it would have been very weedy in that area. It was not but heavey with fleas and at the same depth as the west side the remp was better than 10* higher............just don't what to tell ya.............one thing to look out for is "shinny water" that area will hold weeds.....steer away from that.........good luck.....you can get a south west wind that when the lake widens out the wave will be coming in from the south east......kind of like a "fan"......

When I sent my 788ci in to repair the broken SD card cover, I made the mistake of sending in the broken parts..........I got the unit back , finger prints and smears all over the screen , open up the SD card cover.... ....white glue smeared here and there they super glued the broken parts back in the unit.. ....Oh ya Johnson Outdoors is a GREAT company !!!!!

I did my 1988 20.5 starcraft mariner 210 a number of years ago and I'll give you this heads up.......the next year or the year after I was tearing the floor up again to change out the shift/throlle control......so you may want to think about changing that out also......

Got Hoot up down we went.................0 for 0..............weeds, fleas, bait , fish marks, shallow , deep , inbetween , even put 5 color core out with a torpeto diver on............

Nice job lil Skaneateles , your dad told me you got into them..............

Seneca 8/12/2011 Up by 5.......coffee done.....ice ready.....boat ready.......can't wake Hoot up .....I'll have ONE more cup then head out solo...

WTG.......

Nice job taking care of dem ole guys from Pa.

They were showing up at the knots today on Seneca........could be round two.............last year they hung around right into October.... .........I run 30# Ande main line , and on one reel I have 25# McCoy Mean Green that is also working good.......

Nice story great ending !!!! love them labs !!!

Nice report and GREAT pics......thanks for sharing............. ......

Good for you getting them boys onto fish !!!!!

Seneca ? to go or not….8/11/2011 Up before 6am made the coffee and checked the news out……..wind out of the west 5 to 10 going up to 15mph…………jumped in car went down to lake didn’t look bad at all……back up uncovered boat , Hoot showed up so off we went. Three lines in the water by 7:15am…………..pick up two laker off the rigger at 62’ down boxed them………..wind started building and changed to the wnw……….picked up a 16†bow put it back down 45’………..banged a 3.2# salmon 21.5†down 45’ on the turn boxed him……………pick up a 23†(4.5#) laker in the same area down 67’ boxed him………….had three or four misses…………then thing just shut down…………changed game plan had lots of bait and a few marks but couldn’t get them to fire…………..next change troll back to port and work Lodi Point…………..picked up a 6†laker over there and called it a day……..1ish…………… Good choice TO GO...... .........

..........till Seneca says "You be fishing today" , no more catch'n...... ............. ........this lake keeps me head from getting to BIG !!!!! ......but thanks !!!!

Good for you.... ......I got up a bit late made the coffee , got the ice in the cooler put every thing in the boat.........took a look south and didn't like it......came back inside hit the radar up on the puter..........went out and cover boat........haven't had the cover on in two weeks but it looked like a ll day rain on the way.......I guess I could of made it out for a few hours ......Oh well glade you got into them.......40' to 65' been good for awhile now for the LL and bows.............