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Rochester could be a world class fishery town. Dick Schlyer was a County employee when he started the ESLO Derby, which was the father of all the Big-O derbies. I fished the ’79 Deby off the Genny, waited over 1 1/2 hours to launch & counted 350 boats within 2 miles of the mouth. For a long time, the Rochester politicians & newspapers have not wanted anything to do with developing the fishery. As far as the river goes, Rochester politicians are much more interested in appeasing self interest groups. What’d they blow on the fast “fairyâ€

WTG Jekyll. May Bessie guide the big one to your spread. Tom B. (LongLine)

FP - It's always great to be on the water. Catching fish is a bonus. There's just something scary/discusting about looking shoreward and seeing this coming at you, especially after the committee boat dropped the marker about 150 yds off my starboard stern. There were about 3 more than I was ready to take on.... Tom B. (LongLine)

Finally made it out this morning. Launched at the Genny 5:30. S-SE wind maybe 1ft’rs. Somewhat cloudy towards the NE horizon. Otherwise just a few High clouds. Did a little searching & found a lot of bait 45 -60 FOW, so played a hunch. Only took 1 pic of bait but it was all over water column & a lot of it. Pods every couple of minutes. Closer to surface as you went shallower. Water temp 72F on surface, 44-45F down 35 over 50 FOW. Kind of interesting as same depth over 75FOW was 61-63F. Looked like a wall of warm water pinned the bait in close. Birds had the same idea. Must have been 100-150 of them or so in that 45-50 FOW range. More birds than in a McDonald's parking lot. Anyways, 2 small kings, maybe 5-6 Lbs on doctored 28 Mongoose in that 45 deg water half way to Russell. Rigg’rs, 50 ft back. Ran into a lot of water & air pollution around 9:00. You’d think they’d post the race time/course somewhere where fishermen could see it. Oh well, they own the lake :roll: So headed East & the big guy was back. Beautiful morning on the water. Cooked by 11:00 so pulled out. Luck to all, Tom B. (LongLine)

If you're using the one with the wire: hook cable to one end, ball on the other. or You can remove the wire and feed your uncoated cable through the holes. Then attach your ball. Put a crimp between the legs to "nail" it in position. (I like about 1" above the clip for the ball.) or If your'e using it on a coated line, drill out the holes a little larger then use a piece of tubing as insulation to keep it from wearing the coating off the cable. Again (but carefully) us an eletrical terminal connector to "nail" it in place. (There's a picture someplace way back there) or If you're using it as a stacker, thread your cable through it and use a toothpick or a small trottline clip to hold it in place. The wire that holds your line should release upward. You can make a loop then twist your line about 4 times and put the loop in the clip or you can half-hitch a rubber band to you line and put the free loop in the release clip. Be careful if you use light line with the twisted loop. Some light mono lines "stretch & warp" after about 1 1/2 hrs or so. H.I.H. Tom B. (LongLine)

Brian - Nice fish. You're hooked now Just remember to use common sense out there. Tom B. (LongLine)

TerraPenn, That's quite a fish for the youngster. They're very strong fish. I haven't seen one that big in the lake for quite a while. Tom B. (LongLine)

Capt Spike - Where'd you get 12s?????? I've never seen them and have been looking all over. Anyone got a 12 fish mold? Tom B. (LongLine)

NOAA near-shore says Rochester temp is 55. This is approx 35 FOW west of the Genny. Tom B. (LongLine)

Gear on bottom of distributor may have lost a tooth & the timing is way out of whack? I'd remove distributor cap then crank the engine to make sure distributor turns first then pull the distributor & check out that cheap nylon gear. (Check manual first before pulling distributor. As I remember one of the cylinders has to be in a certain stroke & the rotor has to point someplace when you reassemble it.) Tom B. (LongLine)

FWIW In 2005, NYS stocked Lake Ontario with 517K Washington “rainbow (steelhead)â€

Billy V – Yes it is a forecast. (as I stated & the map is dated 8/4) However you can see on the 6:00AM nowcast that you posted, there is a cooler water surface plume forming in that area and moving southward. (run the nowcast backwards i.e. 00, -03, -06, etc) Unfortunately, cold water shouldn’t hit the surface till we’re all back at work- Mond, Tues, Wed. :evil: Keep your fingers crossed by next weekend that we’ll have some cooler water on our shore. Ray – Don’t worry, I know you funning. Here’s the bathymetry of the area. Interesting structure to the S/SE/SW of it. It's very hard to find on the typical NOAA navigation charts. It's also interesting to see what the guys reporting on "attheoak" are fishing over when they're out at the 28, 29, 30 lines. Tom B. (LongLine)

Welcome Phil. I've seen a few Kayak'rs in the Genny & on I-Bay. It appears to be a growing sport. Last year someone set up a removable Kayak course on the Genny, up by Driving park bridge. I'm sure you'll find clubs at school. By the way which one? Tom B. (LongLine) p.s. if you've fished for sharks in a kayak, you'll fit right in to this group.

It gives new meaning to the phrase "beating the snot out of" something. :roll: Tom B. (LongLine)

The cold water has been pushed against the northern shore, Coburg, Pt Hope & west areas (greens& yellows)with the entire south shore having warm water (oranges, reds). This map is predicting some cold water “springing upâ€

Right on time...1st week of August (This is an upwelling between the big basins) Tom B. (LongLine)

Hey Ray, Don't forget to count your Snoopy, Mickey Mouse & Barbie rods. :roll: Tom B. (LongLine)

Hey A-TOM-MIK Tom, We're trying to give you a hint as your flies have been such a hit. Also some new names for you stuff: 401K, EC (Extra change), MJ (money jar), CS (cash stash), WT (wifey-thing), Double R (rig'r researcher), Double D (Direct deposit), BH (But Honey), OL (old lady), SL (smart lady), FTB (F the Bit[H) Tom B. (LongLine)

Tom My release above probe: 1. My probe rigger on a swivel base. I swivel it forward to load line into release. Lower a little then swivel aft, then lower all the way down. When swiveling aft, the probe may spin a couple times. (depends on waves & how much of a hurry I'm in) Anyways it can catch the down line of my rod and wrap it around the cable. 2. I keep my weight in the water all the time. Keeps it from swinging - banging hull, stressing cable, stressing mount. Therefore a little less reach overboard to load the release. (beneficial to solists) 3. A little less drag on the lead to the weight which may or may not help keep the probe horizontal, down deep. Tom B. (LongLine)

As Irish said, here's how I did my Sub-T: Also, if you use a wire terminal, overwrap it then squeeze it to a smaller diameter. Don’t just crimp it. You don’t want to cut/kink cable. Tom B. (LongLine)

YT - Maybe they think it's a small Bowfin. :?: Actually, Bluntnose minnow, & Spottail shiner have very pronounched spots there. One could also argue that Lake Chubs & some perch type minows have spots in that vicinity at some stage in their lives. What baitfish has a silver or red treble hook for a tail? Which ones glow in the dark? Ray - Don't change the split rings, leave them as is, just turn the spoon around... Tom B. (LongLine)

Don't know the area but I'm assuming he was caught as he pulled into his dock. Not in his driveway after he drove home :roll: Tom B. (LongLine)

wrr, A 19 ft'r without 2 riggers is just another boat. Adjust the angle on your transducer up, a little closer to the horizontal & you'll be able to see your cannon balls. Tom B. (LongLine)

FOR MEN ONLY :!: Get practical...keep the change. Buy her something (often) for under, but close to a buck. Make sure the sales tax takes it over a buck. Pay for it with two singles, then stash the change. Surprise her with a candy bar or bag of M&Ms now & again. She gets a treat & you get a treat...Don't laugh, it works. It's funny how some wives will count every bill in your wallet but won't touch the change jar. If that doesn't work try this line: "But honey, it's something we can do together." or "But honey, I wanted you to try this hot lure first." If it's any consolation, Fishing is still a lot cheaper than therapy. Tom B. (LongLine)

Jim - I'm thinking the charging problem is mostly in the battery technology now days. (It's reading high again at high speed) For years I ran a car battery. I started this year with a deep cycle, then went to a starting/deep cycle. Fried the second one. I just went to a straight marine starting battery. Maybe older engines don't like the new batteries. I may endup back at the auto store. (of course new stator, diode, cables probably helped) Interesting about the thermocline. Maybe the lake is moving towards an upwelling? Tom B. (LongLine)