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Downrigger releases with a Moor or DR
LongLine replied to Yankee Troller's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
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Downrigger releases with a Moor or DR
LongLine replied to Yankee Troller's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
Billy - There’s no harm in putting the release below the probe. Probably depends on where your riggers are mounted & your technique for attaching the line. (I.E. pull the ball in with a lanyard, swivel rigger to the side of the boat, etc.) However I have had tangles when the probe occasionally spins above water in a decent chop when I’ve attached release below the probe. I swivel rigger to the side of the boat where I can easily reach it. I’m not coordinated enough enough to swivel the rigger back into position and lower it without spin. Doesn’t take much to nick light line. Above the probe, I’ve never had that problem running solo, even in a decent chop. If you use any release that can rotate on a coated cable, it’ll wear thru the coating real fast which is why I figured out that trick with the spray tube on 150 Lb and wire insulation on the 210 Lb stuff. With a wear spot from a Black's on 150 Lb cable, I lose signal about 65-70 Ft down. Tom B. (LongLine) -
Erin - This the site you're looking for? http://ocsdata.ncd.noaa.gov/OnLineViewe ... rTable.htm Try 14805 -14806 ( If the link doesn't work then just backspace off the "greatlakesviewertable" and look for a link on the page that comes up) D't'T - Love that one. Who says there's no structure in Lake Ontario??? Tom B. (LongLine)
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Trolling Bags vs. Plates
LongLine replied to Skunk'd Too's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
SK’2 – That’s basically it. Those transom eyebolts are a heck of a lot stronger than any deck cleat. You really don’t need the swivel/pulley if you don’t want it. The bucket won’t be zipping across the wake like a skier & will move just rope on rope. You really don’t have to buy a ski harness. Just tie a couple of those clamp/clip/hooks (like you have on the cable/strap on your trailer) on a piece of rope. Initially, the way I got the length was to set it up on the boat out of the water. Length is right when rope will clear the motor housing but won’t fall below the cavitation plate. I think mine is 3/8†-
...glow for hours when properly charged with invisible light :?: :roll: Tom B. (LongLine)
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Ditto ... what R'D' said Tom B. (LongLine)
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Fishstix, Thanx for the site. "dam aliens, who put that island there?" Tom B. (LongLine)
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Trolling Bags vs. Plates
LongLine replied to Skunk'd Too's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
Sk’2 I also run an 18 ft’r with an outboard. I have an engine/water well & storage compartment that block off access to the very back of the boat. That with the riggers, engine, and probes makes the side of the boat the easiest area to land a fish. Therefore when I want to go real slow I use the old 5 gal plastic bucket. I use a pulley/harness like you would with a water skier, to keep it directly behind the engine at all times. As Jerry said it does float. In addition it won’t turn your boat when fishing alone & landing a fish so I don’t have to go to neutral. I have about a dozen 5/8†-
Unfortunately the typical wind direction gizmo can only detect the local wind direction & velocity at the height where it is positioned. If it is positioned at 50 ft above ground level at the Oak, it cannot tell you what the winds are doing at the 2000 ft level nor what’s going on in Oswego at the 50 ft level. NOAA utilizes weather balloons to study what’s happening in the upper regions & just about every whether station reports its own wind meter readings. It is not unusual to have different levels of the atmosphere traveling in different directions or in the same direction but simply at different speeds. The “Jet-Streamsâ€Â
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Mike “Fleas’ are Spiny water fleas, an invasive specie that has shown up in the Great lakes the last few years and can become quite abundant in warm areas of the lake. (surface – July August Sept) They can amass mostly on your vertical lines and resemble grayish-brown matts of seaweed. They’re great for plugging up your eyelets as you’re reeling in line. They do however find it difficult to stick to the heavier or coated lines and with riggers or flatlines can be removed by slapping the line into the water or "zipping" it out of the water quickly. Tom B. (LongLine)
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Waterlogged - Mount the mounting board on the transom even with the bottom. You don't want the extra drag & turbulance to mess up the transducer especially if it has a speed indicator on it. However mount the tranducer bracket & the tranducer depending on what you want to see and when you want to see it. If you want to see directly below the boat while trolling then mount tranducer parrallel to the water. If you want to see slightly out to the one side then follow the contour of the hull. If you want to see while your cruising around then mount the transducer just a little bit lower than your hull and point slightly forward. If you want to follow you cannonball then point it slightly to the rear. If positioning the board is the only way you can get the transducer mounted for the view you want, then by all means bevel it. One tip - check prop rotation. Mount it on side of boat that is on the downward rotation of the prop. Tom B. (LongLine)
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NK will probably have everything you could possibly want however if not go to this site. http://www.wtp-inc.com/labels-bulk_tape.html Click "custom tapes" then hit "next" a few times. In Rochester I just hit JayVees every once in a while. Pretty sure Shawn's Marina, up Billy's way, has a bunch also. Tom B. (LongLine)
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Rob - Glad to see I'm not the only one that calls them dog-fish. Be forewarned though, waters that have them also have decent Largemouths. Tom B. (LongLine)
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Chad - I like the map idea. Test site looks neat. Here's where a bunch said they plan on fishing: http://fishing.lakeontariounited.com/vi ... .php?t=806 Tom B. (LongLine)
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Mike Scroll down a bit in the topics. There's a couple of lengthy threads there about dipseys, rods, lines. Tom B. (LongLine)
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Ben - Here's another with interesting info. Not that great on detailing waves for Big-O but the pull downs are very good for surface currents, transects etc. http://www.glerl.noaa.gov/res/glcfs/glc ... pe=N&hr=00 Tom B. (LongLine)
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Did a search on "down jiggers" & clicked on jigger manufacturing Boy, did I get set up :!: :!: Tom B. (LongLine)
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When this one gets redeployed, it'll tell you what's really going on out in the middle, hour by hour. Great for patterns as it'll show if winds are increasing/decreasing through the night. Should come alive again in a couple weeks or so. Also great for barometric pressure patterns. http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=45012 Tom B. (LongLine)
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Andre - Always inspect your cable before you hit the water. Kinks and bad crimps always let loose at the wrong time. If your cable gets curled, bent at 90 deg or caught in your tackle box lid, you can be sure a kink is on the way. Some guys think you can but you can't straighten out a kink. I'm not really familiar w/ the type rigger you have but can tell you that if it's a short arm and you do a lot of bottom bouncing, the last 2 ft of cable will take a real beating. I got some of those plastic gizmos (terminals) with the cannons I bought and the 1st thing I did was throw them away. I always use one of those metal "horse-shoe" gizmos and double crimp (with a crimp tool) the swivel/snap. I also reconnect everything at least once during the summer whether it needs it or not. H.I.H. Tom B. (LongLine)
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REBEL REPORT 3/25 sunday
LongLine replied to RUNNIN REBEL's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Jerry - now that's the cure for cabin fever. Nice! Glad to hear about the lack of lamprey hits. Maybe the LT pop' is on the rise. Billy: Check the MODIS: http://coastwatch.glerl.noaa.gov/modis/ ... 3.250m.jpg Tom B. (LongLine) -
Refered to the "Genny" Brand of sturgeon... :roll: Couple/few years ago DEC put a few in the Genny. Last yr was a big article in D&C that DEC said they were doing well. Possession is illegal though & probably will be for many years. Tom B. (LongLine)
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Tom - I'm a proponent of single hooks. Most of my spoons are singles. You will loose a bit of wobble at high speeds (spin sooner) but you'll gain it at the low end. I'm sure tackle mfgs will say they test their lures but there's only a few that sell replacement hooks for their lures. You'd think that the "Brand X" mfg that claims his lure is the best would also say his lure wobbles best with only his "Brand X" replacement hooks. Tom B. (LongLine)
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Billy - Nice. Had to be a thrill. In about 20-25 yrs, your kids may be able to fish for them in the Genny. (don't think I'd eat them tho...) Tom B. (LongLine)
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The red shrimp will inhabit warmer and shallower water than the native shrimp which are having a problem now days. I'm really wondering and wishfully hoping that the alewives will pick up on them and shift back in towards shore. DEC is on the fence. "They might be bad, they might be good." Tom B. (LongLine)
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Gambler. Definitely not the gloom & doom. Appears to me that there's a slight but definite upswing. Hopefully these last 3 weeks haven't messed things up for them. Tom B. (LongLine)