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Good observation. One theory is that when bait is suspended & tightly packed, it is because bigger fish are driving them upward as they are feeding on them. Tom B. (LongLine)

Always best to ask permission if you're going close to someone's property. Head up the road a bit toward Russell station. You won't have any access problem there. Even tho the plant has been shut down a while, some decent fish do stray in there. You also may want to give I-Bay channel & mouth a shot. (Nice parking lots both places) Tom B. (LongLine)

Welcome to the site Paul. Sounds like you're located around the ponds. Try tossing a few cleos around the mouths early then late in the day. There's a few Kayak-rs on here that have been doing pretty well. Tom B. (LongLine)

Frm – Both USGS & USF&WS are in different divisions of the Dept of the Interior. USF&WS is brother to the National Parks Service & USGS is brother to the Bureau of Reclamation in the Water & Science division. The USGS reputation you allude to about earthquakes comes from renown Hollywood disaster movies such as Volcano, Earthquake, etc. Actually USGS is highly involved with Land use, Core Sciences, Ecosystems and Natural hazards. They’re more “hard-core†science than USF&WS & have some tremendous research & researchers. USGS has been actively involved with Lake Ontario and its restoration for many many years including monitoring the “health of the lakeâ€, lake levels, micro-organisms, Chemistry, water movement...you name it – they’ve been into it. Prey fish studies and the stocking of fish (Lakers & Atlantics) is directly related to the ecosystem & the “health of the lake.†I.E. fish abundance is one of the measures of a lakes health, hence USGS involvement. Differences between the two orgs can be seen from their mission statements: Tom B. (LongLine)

Cornelius - OFAH, CRAA & others have done a great job cleaning up trib habitat up there and more projects are in the works. I did some searching and found that there used to be 14 tribs stateside that reported good A.S. runs years ago. Also that in addition to what Gill-T said as issues, is the history of de-forrestation. Trees held back sediment and provided shade for the water, hence they didn't get as warm. Much higher than 70F is lethal to them. They have very difficult summers in the tribs. Tom B. (LongLine)

Here’s a few pic’s before the wind came up View of the Summerville pier from Durand. (normally, you can see it) View of the Charlotte pier. (standing South of the CG station) Every 10 min or so a ricochete would come up onto the fishing access deck. View of the Summerville pier (Standing across from the CG station) Looks like all the garbage was washed off the piers. CG moved all their boats south of the turnsty. Believe it or not: there were 4 boat trailers in the lot. Bet they had fun retrieving. Tom B. (LongLine)

Sorry for your loss Ray. We currently have 3 pooches, all rescued. A Nova Scotia "Troller" (obviously a favorite for a Lk O fishermen), a Golden & a "freeking" Beagle appropriately named "Sonic." All 3 aggressively protect the house from squirrels. Tom B. (LongLine)

Looks like a revision: 12-16 ft'rs directly out of the North tomorrow late. Tom B. (LongLine)

Steve - You refering to Maplewood falls? High falls is up by the inner loop. Lake fish can't get up there as they'd have to swim up Maplewood. Stay away from the mouth tomorrow. Tom B. (LongLine)

With 10-12 ft'rs out of the NE, fishing between the genny piers would be pure lunacy. They'll be coming straight in on you, bouncing off the walls & growing even bigger. I'll bet the CG moves their boats way upstream. Tom B. (LongLine)

The original post was not intended to start any kind of urination contest. It was intended to show that the Feds have some people studying it, which I found to be kind of interesting, and that it may extend the fishing season in some areas. Also please remember that it took a while for the Pacifics to develop. (The first ESLO was won with a 5 Lb King.) Serious stocking of Atlantics was given up by the US side many years ago. It was only about 4 yrs ago that the wine company started putting serious numbers of them on the Canadian side of the lake and still those numbers are less than 60% of the US King stocking. No one can expect a "tremendous" fishery to spring up overnight. It's taken 40 yrs, some up - some down, of hefty stocking numbers to get what's there now. Although some of our canadian collegues believe they put in inferior strains that never grow, you have to admit some nice size Atlantics have been caught in the last couple years. "Thiaminase" affects other fish besides Atlantics, and they seem to be doing pretty well out there. People always assume that Atlantics will only gobble alewives like the Kings do, however alewives are not on the top of their favorite foods list. Gill - I somewhat disagree with "None of these problems are going away." Please name a few dams & the headwaters because we do have King nat repro occuring with the current geography. Over harvest was done by the commercial fishermen (i.e. salmon trawlers with nets which no longer exist on the US side) not the sportsfishermen with 1 fish creel limit, lake is cleaner now than it's ever been in our life-times. The issues you mention may not have gone away but they have been greatly reduced. Question is: Have they been reduced enough? Tom B. (LongLine)

You can buy a decent trolling rod for 35 bucks. Unless you place great sentimental value in it as I do my snoopy rod, buy a new one. (or put it on your Christmas list, then go buy a new one & you'll have 2 new ones) Tom B. (LongLine)

Tunison raises the Atlantics. (Feds) If Altmar (NYS) did raise them then some pacifics would be displaced. NOTE: This is a fall stocking, not the normal spring stocking. Tom B. (LongLine)

6 at 5:38pm 4 at 6:03pm 8 at 6:42pm 12 at 7:15pm 4 at 7:30pm 16 at 8:09pm 2 at 8:17pm 13 at 9:12 14 at 9:45 . . . .

Hope your pier gear includes a safety line. 7-10 out of the SW on Fri switching to 9-12 out of the NE on Saturday. Yikes! (wave height not wind speed) Tom B. (LongLine)

USGS stocking 70K Atlantics from Tunison on east end. http://oswegocountybusiness.com/index.php?a=3612 hmmm... interesting Tom B. (LongLine)

Man I'm glad that's over for now. Tom B. (LongLine)

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Cornelis - Honk your horn next time. Tom B. (LongLine)

Fishing Report LongLine Launched at 5. Calm & some stars, some clouds. Only 1 boat ahead of me & he went up river. Maybe 8 people on the Summerville pier. 67F in the river. Went out to 35 fow, took a left & setup. 64 on top. Zigzagged out to 60 then back in & worked the 45-55 range to Russell & back. 60F on the bottom. Lots of bait there with quite a few big guys porpoising & playing on the surface. Looked back after the sun came up & there were 23 boats jockeying for position around the river. Anyways got this chunker ½ way to Russell, on the bottom with an NK Wonderbread; 2 ¾ mph, 40 ft lead. Also had a bite-off & one complete "nobody home" miss. About 9:00 the boats started moving out & the screen went blank. Off at 10:30 About 25 trailers in the lot. Water has gone down quite a bit but still very launch-able. City has put more cleats on the docks. Luck to all Tom B. (LongLine)

Happy Birthday Mark For anyone not following the “Jerk’s†exploits: He's one of the original LOU members - PC. (pre-crash) He’s a local boy out of I-Bay known for pics & videos of his party catching fish. However the team got the itch to explore other hot spots this year. Who can forget his team's 1st try at the tribs: Or when Ray told him about Seneca & fishing the park: Of course he had to try Musky’s home turf, early before the high water hit: But come late summer his crew realized fishing’s always better at home: Happy Birthday Mark. Tom B. (LongLine)