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Just patching the motor hasn't worked out very well for you so far. If you want something reliable, you need to fix it right. I'd bet if you looked around, you could find a decent used 4 banger for less than $500. Possibly a lot less if you wanted to deal with picking up a complete boat that someone would be happy to have gone from their property. Slap a used motor in it for now, and rebuild your present motor properly over time.
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Looking for advice setting up boat for trolling
Shellback replied to Cletus's topic in This Old Boat
They do sell XL shaft motors. Some refer to them as "sail" motors. They have a 25" shaft and are common on sailboats. Most are between 8 and 15 HP. I had a nice Yamaha 9.9 four stroke 25" motor that I used on a transom like yours. That said, I'll go with the others recommending an I pilot or Xi5 electric bowmount. That will let you troll any speed below 2 MPH. Over 2 MPH you can run your main motor and bowmount together. By doing that, you use the bowmount on a lower speed to take advantage of the auto pilot feature, and the main motor for the faster propulsion. -
Pitting on the cam surfaces doesn't sound good. Add in the engine knock and the motor must have had some serious lubrication problems. More than likely, the crankshaft surfaces are also damaged with the knock. Might better get a price on a reground crank and bearings, cam bearings, and a set of rings.Hopefully the cylinders and pistons are good. That 4 banger motor is about as simple as you can get. I think the OP got some bad advise and half a**ed repairs by his mechanic. If I pulled a cam out that was pitted, over and above the lobes being worn off, I would have had serious concerns on the rest of the motor.
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Yes the carb could be messed up. Did he have it off when he did the cam job? If it was upside down or sideways, it could have effected the float. I don't see a reason to have the carb off doing the cam though, and think it's unlikely to be your problem, but you can't rule it out. Personally if everything was right with the distributor timing and firing order, I'd start thinking about valve adjustment. Could some be set too tight? That will cause a problem for sure.
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In an earlier post, you listed the point gap at .022. Set the points at that, and don't worry about the dwell. That 4 cyl, point ignition, carb motor is about as basic as you can get. Engine TDC on compression stroke, rotor pointing at #1 wire, firing order correct, and it's getting gas, you should only have to adjust the distributor timing a little as it cranks, then it should run if the cam and lifters were installed properly. Once started and running, set the timing with a light.
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Your picture in post #34 shows the firing order is correct. But as rolmps stated, your #1 position has to relate to where the rotor is pointing when the engine is at top dead center on the compression stroke. If you bring the engine to TDC and the rotor is not pointing at #1, you can move #1 wire to the position the rotor is pointing, then plug in #3, #4, and #2 following #1 in a clockwise direction.
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Keep in mind a four stroke engine's crankshaft rotates 2 times for each rotation of the camshaft and distributor. The timing marks have to line up when the engine is on the compression stroke. You can do this by way of watching the intake vale open as I said in an earlier post, or if you can bump the starter with #1 plug removed, you can feel compression coming up with your finger.
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You have to stop guessing. Turn the engine over until top dead center comes up on the pulley on the compression stroke. Also watch what way the distributor rotates. Once on top dead center, drop the distributor in so the rotor is pointing at #1. Then make sure the firing order coincides with the direction the rotor turns.
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Rotate the engine in the proper direction. Watch for the intake valve opening. Once it opens, then starts closing, continue rotating until the top dead center mark on the crankshaft lines up with the timing mark plate. The distributor rotor should now be at #1 cylinder. The missing shim shouldn't affect timing, but it could cause irregular wear on the cam or lifters. All this cam and distributor timing is pretty basic mechanic stuff. Nothing high tech about it. If the engine ran half decent with the bad cam, you shouldn't be having these problems if the job was done properly. I'd have to question your mechanic's abilities. Some motors oil pumps are driven off the distributor. If the distributor doesn't drop all the way in, you may have to rotate the engine some for everything to line up. Once it does drop all the way in, rotate the engine again to make sure all the marks line up. You will have to rotate the crankshaft twice to bring the distributor back to #1.
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They sell a jack plate that will allow you to raise that motor the 5 "s you need. It will set the motor back some, so you need to be sure your steering, throttle and shift cables are long enough. Here's a link. For a little over $100 bucks it's your simplest solution and you don't need to screw with the boat or motor. Everything stays stock. http://www.wholesalemarine.com/t-h-marine-hi-jacker-fixed-jack-plate-jp-4fa-dp.html?gclid=Cj0KEQjwpZO_BRDym6K_nMye7cEBEiQAVA7RaKt7lEhbC8lm0o9MhII54JdhXvtXRPF0qMjx-vOeez0aAqmX8P8HAQ
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1969 Mercrusier 120 rebuild... Worth the money?
Shellback replied to FishingTheFL's topic in This Old Boat
A bad cam is usually the result of the surface hardening wearing off. Once past the hardening, the lobes wear off very fast. Been quite a few years now, but I remember replacing a number of cams in small block Chevy's. Not sure on a compression check. What could happen is if the intake valve cam lobe is bad, the cylinder might not get the air in it to build compression. I guess it depends on what lobes are worn off. Wouldn't hurt to try a compression check. If it's good, I wouldn't hesitate to put a cam in it. You could pull the valve cover off and see what valves are affected by the bad cam. If you aren't getting any lift on the intake valve, then the compression check isn't going to tell you much. -
Huh? Yesterday you call the guy out, and today you post that you received payment two days ago.
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I had a new 998 that was crashing on start up. I disconnected the GPS antenna and the unit started up and worked fine for sonar. H/B sent me a new antenna, and it's worked fine after that. Make sure your battery is fully charged, and wire the unit with a fuse direct to the battery. Electronics are very sensitive to voltage, and fuse panels, multiple connections, and such are susceptible for voltage loss.
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This is more from an ad I saw about the tourney. Pay*Outs: Payouts will be calculated based on the number of teams that participate, roughly 1in 5. Entry fee for the i1 Baits Oneida Lake Walleye Open is $325 per team. This covers the main event and Lunker pool. Big Fish Friday is a separate paid event as are all Calcutta style side bets. Boat launch fee is not included in either price, however it may be added if necessary. *****$5000 first prize and $1000 Lunker Pool is based on fifty teams participating.***** $325 entry fee and up to $5000 payout. I was curious if it was legit, and what the final payout was. Haven't seen anymore info on it.
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That's why I asked about the results.
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2016 Oneida Lake Open Anybody know anything about this tourney, and the results? Hello Walleye Fishermen. I have scheduled an Open format, team walleye tournament for Oneida Lake, Syracuse NY for May 21st, 2016. This event may be the single largest payout walleye tournament scheduled for Oneida Lake in 2016. Also planned in a "big fish Friday" for tournament anglers and several Calcutta side-bets will be available.
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If you are wanting a 4 stroke, don't compromise. Been there, done that. Landed up costing me more to upgrade to a 4 stroke afterward.
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Do you realize this post is almost 10 years old?
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For Sale : USA Navionics chip
Shellback replied to Shellback's topic in Classifieds - Buy, Sell, Trade or Rent
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Free..., dust not included
Shellback replied to ontherise's topic in Classifieds - Buy, Sell, Trade or Rent