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Not necessarily. Just this week I had to contact Furuno to get the color code for their FCV-620 fishfinder. The book wasn't clear what the NMEA in/out wires were to hook up to my Garmin GPSMAP-162. Somebody (Garmin or Furuno) isn't using the same color code to identify the NMEA wiring :? . Your best bet is to contact the manufacturer of your outdrive and get the right info once. Once Furuno gave me that info( within 3 hours of my email request) the hookup was painless and now my FF & GPS are talking to each other .

Is the engine mounted on the bracket? If so you will still need to put some downword pressure on the unit to lower the bracket. Be carefull and keep everyones (& your) fingers away from the bracket cause it will take them off as if they were play-dough :shock: .

That stainless bar on the side is a lock. One end (toward the transom) just lifts over a nut on the side and keeps the mount from lowering. Swing the locking arm out of the way while using the kicker and then lock the kicker up while trailering. I would also strap the kicker in the up position if you intend to trailer the boat with the kicker mounted.

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OK `dog-y, now you have everyones attention. So.....a rose by any other name is still a rose....right. Pop Gear, Lake Troll, Cow Bells.....all the same. Here is a picture of one of the rigs I made up :shock: but it just didn't pull all that well.. :? ....... ............the stand is just to hold the cow bells for picture takein' if you know what I mean . PS: I'm on my second glass of wine now so don't get mad at me...OK . Just having a little fun

Hay `dog. As others have mentioned it sounds like your using lake troll/christmas tree rig/etc or similiar. Post a picture of what your using and take a mystery :? out of it. Just maybe we have a different name for it and someone may be able to point you in the right direction but by the sounds of it if they are not in your local shops then you'll have to mail order. We've made some various riggs using smaller willow leaf blades to try and reduce the drag but it just wasn't my bag so they only got used once. Those riggs do catch fish but I for one don't like pulling them `cause of draaaaag. I like to move along and those riggs are for sloooow-troll and is fine on smaller bodies of water. Dodgers & flashers also catch fish and that is about all the drag I really want to put up with.

Thought I'd post this link for those of you that use State launch facilities and may not be aware of this park pass. It's for the "Empire Passport" which cost $59.00 for the season. The pass gives you unlimited entry to most State recreational facilities. The launch fee last year was $7.00 if the park has swimming available and $6.00 if not. Not sure if the rates will be raised this year. After 8-9 launches your money ahead for the year. http://www.nysparks.state.ny.us/passport/ You can order one online or at any State Park Office when the are open.

Thanks for the heads up Split'. I find it interesting that with all the doom & gloom in NYS and the state budget is about to explode they go and spend $11 mill on parks :shock: . Similiar to the mid 90's when Dean's and Long Point were rebuilt. With all the pissing & moaning about NYS one really can't **** about our parks.

I wonder why they didn't use the Yamaha 150 2 stroke for a comparison ( or any other 2 stroke for that matter) instead of the 4 stroke? Not really apples to apples. :?

ReilDiel, my post was not aimed at you or anyone else and I apolpgize if I offended you, your company, your industry or anyone else . I was just pointing out that you really don't don't know what is in the package until you dig a little deeper. It was sorta like last month when I went into the frig and pulled out a well known brand of a half empty 1 liter bottle of apple juice from what I thought was an American product (no names `cause I don't want to piss anyone else off here), and while I was drinking a small glass of the juice I glanced at the side of the label and saw, "concentrate from China" over printed on the label. I almost puked. I threw the rest away and have been warning everyone else since then to read the label if you give a zhit were it comes from. BTW, after checking labels from the same manufacturer since I haven't found any more "concentrate from China" on them. Guess I wasn't the only one that noticed it. Ok, again, I'm sorry . Just remember, not every steelhead jumps and not every laker dives to the bottom, so what you get into the boat may not be what you think your reeling in `till you see it for sure :shock: .

Not to blow a hole in anyone's post but this is what I come up with on were the gas you put in your car/truck/boat comes from issue.. :roll: .... "Can I tell which country or State the gasoline at my local station comes from? The Energy Information Administration (EIA) cannot definitively say where gasoline at a given station originated since EIA does not collect data on the source of the gasoline sold at retail outlets. The name on the service station sign does not tell the whole story. The fact that you purchase gasoline from a given company does not necessarily mean that the gasoline was actually produced by that particular company’s refineries. While gasoline is sold at about 167,000 retail outlets across the nation, about one-third of these stations are “unbrandedâ€

I'm still planning on being there. boat name " Li'l Buddy" ...no crew yet,only 2 rods runnin' so far (handicaped )...waiting for Chaos to make up his mind wether he is going to jump on board before I go down to ManPower and recruit. At a minimun I'll need his crypto code for the uplink .

....what the others said and also be sure not to attach your releases to the fin of the pancakes. With your releases attached to the back of the weight the tension on the line will tend to steer the weight as you tighten up on the rod to load your set :shock: . Attach to the cable so the weight can track without interference. BTW....I have 2 pancakes I'd sell if anyone is interested. Pickup only, will not ship .

Ray....saw your van/trailer at Treman launch yesterday morning. Gave ya a couple blasts on the radio (68 ) while we were fishin but no response. We stayed pretty much on the south end and targeted the surface bite. Picked up a few browns and 1 dink salmon for our efforts,...oh...my guest just had to wack one of those snake fish (northern) :shock: also . I told him the next time he fishes with me to be sure to tell his lures to only target salmonoids :roll: or he'll have to leave his tacklebox home. Our fish came on a combination of sticks & spoons. Early was chartreusey stuff and then change to naturals when sun came out. We broke down about 1 PM and shot the bull for another hour & half in the parking lot. The fish we caught got a lot bigger the longer we talked about them :shock: . My guest asked that I not identify him `cause he has a reputation on Cayuga to uphold and fishing on my boat would sorta blow that. Can you imagine someone saying that to you?....and after I bailed him out with his wife. Ya....he figured that if his boat was in the driveway that his wife would think he was at work.....so he jumps on my boat and everyone is happy. DEC stopped by the launch when we were pulling out. He went around checking boats but didn't bother us. Another trip down and no tickets yet this season . Life is good .

Nice report `dauber, thanks for participating. Glad your trip paid off for you. Ray....Capital district huh :roll: , how come I feel another tax increase coming? I can see this trip showing up in the new (someday) state budget :shock: . Since my last post here the state passed the budget :shock: . The results weren't as good for some of us as expected. State budget cut out the Law School at SUNY Binghamton and sent the money down state. There was a side bar on the budget that read something like, " pick up the tab at Kings Ferry Hotel after `dauber and his buddies have a fishing trip. We'll fund it with the money from the SUNY Binghamton Law School project"

yuki'.........my responce is here......... http://www.lakeontariounited.com/fishin ... php?t=4914

yuki', info for your buddy...........I have the Merc 115 EFI 4 stroke on my 19' glass boat. Bought both new in `02. Went with the 4 stroke cause most all my fishing is trolling for trout and eyes and I wasn't sold on the 2 strokes for long term trolling (I'm from the old school :? ) . This engine trolls down to about 1.5 mph. Engine works great and haven't had any problems. Only normal oil changes every 100 hrs and plug changes (@$11 ea.) once a year. Normal gas consumption was about 6 to 8 gal a trip depending on how far I powered out to fish. I finally went with a 4 stroke kicker 2 years ago because I was racking up a lot of hours on the main engine and also didn't have a backup engine just in case. I now use about 4 - to 5 gals for the same fishing trips. BTW, boat gas is the cheapest part of my fishing . If I had to do it over I would probably go with the OptiMax main engine and 9.9 4 stroke kicker from the get go. I don't think you'll go wrong with either the 115 Opti or 115 4 stroke main engine. Both are good and dependable proven engines. Cost to operate is about the same, 2 stroke oil for the Opti and 5 quarts of oil & oil filter every 100 hrs for the 4 stroke.The Opti is a little lighter and a few bucks cheaper. Just consider the kicker engine if you are going to be trolling alot.

19' Arima

Haven't fished Owasco in a couple years so no help there. Cayuga would be my choice. Fishing has been pretty good but starting to slow down. The launch at Lancing Park would probably be the best place for you to launch from. Puts you in the southern portion of the lake and easy access to the fishing grounds. Treman Park down on the southern tip in Ithaca is also and nice launch. Surface fishing (flat lines from boards, in-line planers & down 10' to 15') is still productive and producing some nice Brown's and Landlocks (3 to 5 lb'ers). Check back on some of the Cayuga posts to see what has been working. Not much change, just fewer fish being caught. Good luck out there. Be safe and have a good time. Ray....Capital district huh :roll: , how come I feel another tax increase coming? I can see this trip showing up in the new (someday) state budget :shock: .

Try this out. You should get some good info on this subject. I just installed the Furuno 620 and had it out Sunday for the first time. Had to make a couple of adjustments so I don't want to give you my opinion yet. I would like to use it a couple more times before I am an authority :roll: http://www.lakeontariounited.com/fishin ... php?t=3948

Rusty...I ment to post this before this but I'm over 50 :roll: and I forgot. I installed this battery monitor and it takes all the guess work out of the condition of the batteries. A quick glance and you know exactly what shape the batteries are in. I got mine I think it was through Bass Pro or Cabela's but checking them now they do not carry it anymore. I googled the unit and this was the first thing that came up so I pasted the link so you can see what it is and does. Easy install and only requires a small hole to hide the wires if you surface mount it. No big gauges on the dash to mess with. http://www.reedssports.com/Product/prod ... l&_ID=6846 The price on this site is about what I paid for mine. Got to go now. Have to hook up the boat so I can beat Strike 3 to the launch,......... last one in is a rotten egg .

:shock: :shock: ...if your looking for a maroonish looking boat with a big silver Honda you'll be suprised that it's not `frisco. He is running underground now :? so you'll have to keep on lookin' till you find us BTW, my trophy room is in the corner of my broom closet next to the kitchen mop.

....so you think they were maping the lake huh?.....one word.......transponders.........Chaos is making sure that you'll have no secrets for the LOU-All

.. :shock: ...and I thought that I was the only klutz on this board . All in all it sounds like it was worth the pain. The rest of the season should be pretty good for you now that you got all those slips, slides, falls & spills out of the way. Thanks for sharing.

here is a picture of browns & atlantics side by side.....you decide