Tim Bromund

Signed. #256. Not sure it'll help with me being from the States, but I figured it couldn't hurt.

Very Cool!!

No you can't, they are different distinct sections of the corridor. Silly IMO, but those are the rules.

Brian, They traditionally get very few to any wild fish returning to the hatchery, they are imprinted on other parts of the system instead of beaverdam brook.

Well, when you're used to dragging 45 a day in sideways... Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

From what I hear, pretty dismal. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Update, The signup for the 2015 LOTSA Salmon School is online at our website http://www.lotsa.org We have an outstanding Panel of Speakers this year with many, many years of experience fishing Lake Ontario. Captain Paul Czarnecki and Captain Greg Gehrig have been chartering on Lake Ontario since the 1980s, and Captain Mark McClutchey is a long time Lake Michigan Charter Captain and Tournament angler, and his Diabolical Fishing team has trailered their 30' Pursuit all the way from Northern Michigan for the past 3 years to fish the Wilson Harbor Invitational, so he brings an interesting multi-lake perspective to the salmon fishery. We fully expect this years Salmon School to sell out as it has in all past previous years. don't miss out on the opportunity to learn from some of the best fishermen on the Great Lakes. Tim Bromund LOTSA Corresponding Secretary and Webmaster.

Totally agree Dave, We have been pushing the DEC hard to continue the clipping of kings since they made to decision to stop, but to this point, they don't want to hear it. They have other studies that IMO are of rather dubious value that they want to use the trailer for, namely, they want to do a study of whether coho survival is better when stocked as fall fingerlings or spring yearlings, and they want to do a study to determine whether barge stocking vs direct stocking of brown trout is more effective. Both are a waste of time, money and resources IMO. We already know that coho survive much better when stocked as spring yearlings, the decision to switch to fall fingerling stocking of coho from spring yearling was financial, not biological, it cost's them a lot less when they hold the coho in the hatchery for six fewer months, period. Except of course for the Salmon River's allotment, those are still released as spring fingerlings so that they ensure a good brood stock back to the hatchery, so they already know that spring yearlings survive and imprint better. Regarding the brown trout stocking,I don't know of anyone that isn't happy with the quality of the brown trout fishery in Lake Ontario, they brown fishing is fantastic from one end of the lake to the other, if people choose to fish for them. They get very little attention on the west end in particular, because in a normal year, we have kings to play with all summer. They are there, but no one targets them, for the most part when kings are around. Also they are in shallower than the kings typically are, so there aren't a lot of incidental catches of browns by guys targeting salmon. I happen to like browns, so even in mid summer, I'll spend a couple trips targeting them out of Olcott. You typically find them in 35-50 fow anywhere there is some kind of even subtle structure, gorging themselves on gobys for the most part. I catch all the browns I want when I go in tight and target them, You can troll from the piers to Somerset and catch browns all the way down. I don't know what value there is to that study, It seems that both strategies are very effective and have good/excellent survival. The wild card in the lake is the kings, and IMO, that is where they need to be directing their limited resources. Tim

Well, yes and no Dave. The data from the 2011 Annual report doesn't quite show a banner crop. The data kind of has to be viewed as incomplete. They were unable to do their test seinings 2 out of the four weeks in May due to high water in the river. The 2 data points they do have for may were above average, but all four weeks in June were below average. Also regarding the pictures that have been posted for the last month, lake wide, but especially from Oswego to Mexico where there should be a high percentage of wild fish, almost every mature 3 year old is clipped, you see very few if any adipose intact bigger kings anywhere. The only mature kings that I'm seeing with an adipose fin are smaller high teens/low 20's fish which are mature 2 year olds from the 2012 year class. This lack of wild fish in that year class was evident to the DEC Creel Census folks last year, when, in the fish they checked, there was a much lower percentage of wild 2 year olds in the lake wide catch in 2013. I believe it was around 30% or a little less, where in past years, it had been typically upwards of 60% for immature kings in the catch. That low number of 2011 wild fish last year, coupled with the harsh winter we had last year definitely seems to have had a big impact on the wild fish numbers for this years 3 YO year class. Regardless of the spring 2011 seining data, something happened to the 2011 year class of wild fish, because they just aren't out there in any numbers. Tim

Scotty's aren't plastic, they are fiber reinforced nylon, very tough stuff. Nice try though. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Yes the Cisco's are a bit more expensive, but I think I made the right choice. My Amish Outfitter redwood boards pull like a mule and are absolutely no fun to reel in by hand. These electric Ciscos crank em right in. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

You should try in July when the fishing is stellar out of Olcott. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Jsnyder what time of year do you fish out of Olcott by boat? Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

The Cisco motors are twice the size of the big jons. Plus there is ZERO plastic anywhere on the Cisco's, all cnc machined aircraft aluminum. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

how close do you want to put a weight to your hook, and why ?

it's 4' most places in the tribs, the exceptions are noted in the regs. The lower Niagara does not have that requirement, for example.