Tim Bromund

It's a juggling act since they also need to maintain enough water in Montreal Harbor for their shipping needs, they can't just shut the St Lawrence off.

Church Walleye boards pull a 10 color just fine, you just need to adjust the lead weight on the bottom of the board forward to push the nose of the board down a little bit. They are also fine for pulling copper up to 200 feet that way. Tim

is currently being pulled from the head of the Upper Niagara River. Let Spring Begin!!! Tim

http://www.lakeontariounited.com/fishing-hunting/index.php/topic/35167-otter-boat-reel-line/

Not sure where you are in Canada, but the better spring brown fishing is on the South Shore. St Catharines/Port Dalhousie is always a good area, on down to 50 Point and Jordan. Tim

also FWIW, you want trolling bags, not drift socks. Drift socks aren't built to withstand the pressures of trolling. I second contacting Amish Outfitters. I have had 2 of their 28" Beefy Bags for 6 or 7 years now on my 24' Thompson and they are still as good as new. http://www.amishoutfitters.com

That comment was facetious Tom, I know full well that the SR is the last place that stocking will be cut as they need their brood stock for the hatchery. Any cuts that take place will be at the expense of every other port on the lake, despite the fact that the SR will get fish regardless due to the naqtural reproduction that takes place there. My point was that if the DEC were foolish enough to actually adopt Paul's misguided desires to severely reduce or eliminate kings in favor of concentrating on more trib ufriendly species, the law of unintended consequences will show that he will not see the result he desires becuase all of os lake fisherman aren't going to sell our boats and quit fishing. We're going to fish for what is available, which will exponentially increase pressure on his pets, which, currently go largely ignored, or are at least, just an incidental by-catch for most of us when kings are around to play with. We catch plenty of wild kings in the spring through mid summer, but once they start their migration east in early August, we see almost no adipose intact fish from then on. Tim

OK Paul, so if your supposition is correct, as long as any chinook stocking reductions take place at the salmon river, so be it. That's not the case though, stocking reductions would be a management decision bases on the health of the fish, not the number of wild vs hatchery kings in the system. As long as our kings stay as fat and healthy as they have been there will be no stocking reductions regardless of how many fish are in the lake. and if they eventually do, I'll make do with beating up on steelhead and browns all summer, it'll just cost me more gas to make the 10 mile run to the offshore steelhead killing fields.

Another reason is because with the warm early spring last year, everything was a month ahead of schedule, so they went off the feed a month earlier and had an additional month of living off of stored reserves before they were weighed at the hatchery. Tim

to determine the most effective stocking strategy i.e. pen rearing vs direct stocking at various ports, with a secondary purpose of attempting to determine the amount of imprinting/straying that occurs with the stocked fish.

Oh, and lobby all you want, as long as there are alewives in Lake Ontario, king stocking isn't going anywhere.

yeah, good luck with that Paul. I've said it before and I'll keep saying it until you understand. The best way to protect your beloved stream steelhead snag-fest... er, I mean stream fishery is to have lot of kings in the lake for us to catch, because if there are no kings to play with, we're NOT going to all sell our boats and take up needlepoint, we're gonna run offshore and catch steelhead all summer. We'd rather catch salmon, but we WILL fish for what's available. FWIW, I would certainly hope the trib fishery sees more angler hours than the boat fishery, we have a 4-5 month time frame, whereas the trib fishery has a 9 month+ time frame and anyone with a snoopy pole and a pair of rubber boots can take advantage of that fishery, It's expensive to own and operate a trolling rig, but I would bet that overall, we still contribute a lot more revenue to the lakeside communities.

Tom, I think you may have misinterpreted my comment. I was specifically talking about the Province of Ontario's mishandling of the Atlantic situation, not Lake Ontario's Atlantic efforts. I don't believe anyone on the NYS side wants to eliminate chinooks in favor of atlantics, except for maybe some misguided trib only guys whose only exposure to the mighty king is as black, moldy, non biting half dead mud hens. Tim

can't go wrong with Garmin.

THE PENS ARE GOING IN !!!!!!! SAT. APRIL 6 9:00 AM AT THE TOWN OF NEWFANE MARINA ONCE AGAIN IT'S TIME TO PUT THE PENS IN FOR THE LOTSA OLCOTT PEN PROJECT. WE WILL BE PUTTING IN ALL FOUR PENS TO HOLD OUR 67,100 CHINOOK AND 3,500 STEELHEAD SO BRING A FRIEND AND MEET A BUNCH OF INTERESTING PEOPLE. "DON'T FORGET YOUR CLIPPERS FOR THE TIES" WHEN WE GET DONE WITH OUR PENS IN OLCOTT WE NEED SOME VOLUNTEERS TO HELP THE WILSON PEN PROJECT PUT THERE TWO PENS TOGETHER, ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED. LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU ALL SATURDAY APRIL 6TH AT 9:00 AM AT THE NEWFANE TOWN MARINA IN OLCOTT.

you're just going to have to turn in your high capacity, assault flare gun

What's that Tom? Educate people about the follies of how the Ontario Atlantic Program is actually being handled? Tim

Yeah, like this kind of freeboard on my Thompson

No, I was responding to Kuba's post (#15) where it looked like he thought I was saying that you shouldn't be running a spoon behind a flasher. Tim

not true

I didn't say you couldn't/shouldn't put a spoon behind and flasher or that it wouldn't work, just that it isn't necessary because the spoon provides it's own action. I know that plenty of guys do run spoons behind flashers with success, but clean run spoons have been catching tons and tons of trout and salmon on the lake for decades before anyone ever heard of a flasher. Tim

You can take my humming wire when you pry it from my cold dead hands

See ya there Vince. Tim