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Mexico bay 7/29
Tim Bromund replied to Tribetroller's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Well said Glen.
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Olcott 7-31-11
Tim Bromund replied to Tim Bromund's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Yup, it's close to port and has been producing fish. How is your boat coming? -
Fishing Report Your Name / Boat Name: ============== TRIP OVERVIEW ============== Date(s):7-31-11 Time on Water:0600-1100 Weather/Temp:occasional light rain, shifting winds Wind Speed/Direction: NW -15, then S 20 then back to NW 15-20 Waves: 1-3, occasional rogue 4 Surface Temp: 82 Location:Olcott LAT/LONG (GPS Cords): =============== FISHING RESULTS =============== Total Hits: who knows Total Boated:lost count Species Breakdown:Kings, Browns, Steelhead, Laker, Atlantic Hot Lure: 42 second stingray, various R&R Super lights Trolling Speed: Down Speed: 2.1-2.3 on Depth Raider Boat Depth: 35-175 fow Lure Depth: 20-40 ==================== SUMMARY & FURTHER DETAILS ==================== Dad and I had my buddy John and his 13 YO daughter Anna out on her first fishing trip for something other than bluegills. She repeatedly upped the biggest fish of her life this morning and we almost completed the Lake Ontario Cycle today, got everything but a coho. We got a Laker, a Steelhead, an Atlantic (our first ever on the boat) kings and browns. We started inside in 50-90 fow in front of the microwave but despite the down temp looking real nice with 47 deg down 50, it quickly became obvious that the weather this past week had moved the fish out from where we had found them last weekend. We only caught and released a small lake trout on the 200 copper on a white/ double pearl glow Becholds and A-Tom-Mik Mirage fly, 3 or 4 skipper kings and a small steelhead, all on the riggers on spoons, NK black/purple and 42 second stingray, so we pointed the boat North. Trolled out to 175 or so, picked up another couple shakers on the riggers and divers so we decided a move was needed. We debated to run offshore or tuck way inside and chase browns. The marine forecast was totally wrong yet again and it started off out of the NW with 1-2,s shifted to the south and calmed down then back to the NW and waves picked up again so we opted to tuck inside. As we got into about 55-60 fow the 10 color core took off and we saw the fish jumping way behind the boat. turned out to be our first ever Atlantic on the boat, a nice female that weighed 14.3 lbs. As I set out a brown program of spoons, when we hit 40 fow and started and east troll, all hell broke loose and we were into browns continuously for the next hour and a half. Riggers at 25 and 35, and wire divers at 70 and 80 on a 2. Purple and silver R&R superlights on both main and slider on the 25 foot rigger and 42 second stingray with NK 42 second on a slider above on the 35 rigger gold spook on one diver and R&R green shad on the other. The south wind very quickly moved warm water inside and we were looking at 76 degrees at 35 down, but the browns didn't care. No idea how many we caught but we were into fish more or less continually, with browns up to 13.5 lbs. As we were making a turn to troll west, when we hit 50 fow in mid turn the 35' rigger fired with a screamer and Anna got the biggest fish of her life with a nice 20 lb king. Not sure what he was doing 35 down in 50 fow in 76 deg temps, we must have some fish just beginning to stage so I'm guessing temps will soon be meaningless out ther for the matures. We were mostly trolling with the waves so we were almost to the power plant. Lake quickly built to 2-3+ once it shifted back to the NW so we called it a day at 11:00 and made the fun run in against the waves back to port. Anna's first Brown Trout the 13.5 lber Anna's first King Oh yeah, and where have we seen this before?? started out slow but turned into a pretty nice day for us. Tim
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Flea season should be pretty much over by then. Tim
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Setup for dipsey diver with SD and fly ?
Tim Bromund replied to Ddolan's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
Mark, for what it's worth, we break our wire rods down every time out as well because that's the only way they will fit in the cabin and I have never had a wire line break at any position I certainly never reterminated the big snap swivel much, only when the pigtailing got a little annoying and I cut the wire back a couple feet to get to smooth wire. I don't really think that is too much of a concern, the wire I replaced at the start of last season was 6 years old. If you broke a setup off, I suspect there was another cause. Drag too tight maybe. In the morning I just put the rods together, snap on the divers and set em out. Besides, a dipsey diver with a flasher and fly is NOT a stealth presentation by any stretch of the imagination. Tim -
Setup for dipsey diver with SD and fly ?
Tim Bromund replied to Ddolan's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
for flashers on divers I run 10 feet of 50 lb big game between the diver and flasher. It's not a stealth presentation so it doesn't hurt the number of hits you get and wire diver bites are the most violent you'll ever see. It depends on the size of your boat how long of a leader you can run, but the number of bites you get goes up the longer the leader is. I get a LOT more diver bites with the 10' leader than I did with the 6' leader I used to run. Tim -
Well seriously Tim are you kidding? Last year at Oswego we moved from the lower middle of the pack to take a second place in the proam just 6 points out of first because most everybody was Brown trout fishing and on day two I knew I had to find Salmpon to win it. We did and just missed the win. Had I not known where we stood in the standings I would have continued to fish Browns as they where plentiful and had to rely on luck to do well. Somebody else would have been cashing the check. Sounds like you are talking about a one big fish derby. Completlely different ball game. No strategy just luck. Don't play the dead fish thing with me. I kill fish every weekend (or try to) as people do actually eat them. Can't tell you how many "estimated" 25+ lb Salmon I've heard about on the radio during the spring LOC that didn't make the 20 lb limit once it was hung on the scale. As far as my post goes, a guy asked a question....I answered it. Good fishing. Glen Sorry Glen I assumed Howitzer was talking about the GOSD up on the north shore which is a single big fish deal like the LOC, not a tournament like the pro am. I agree, only a fool dishes any info in that setting and fully support the push for closed communication in those events. We kill our share of fish as well as WE like to eat them, and have absolutely no problem with people keeping up to their limit. The point about our club tournament is that as one of LOTSA's main deals is to promote catch and release, we try to kill as few fish needlessly as possible just for a weigh in for the club tournament. We require any fish to be considered for the tournament to be called on the radio to the tournament control boats on channel 10 with with both a length and approx weight (on a boat scale, not eyeballed weight) and the fish brought to the weigh in has to be within 3" of the called in length, just to avoid people boxing a fish they might otherwise have released just to bring to the weigh in when that fish has no chance of placing. Sounds like we are actually in agreement, just talking about different formats. Peace, Tim
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Interesting. I have had my depth raider down over 160 with no signal loss with that larger diameter antenna, which I need for my scotty downrigger autostop beads to fit through. Tim
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It's called a drop curtain. Can't help you specifically with a shop in that area, but I seem to remember there being a canvas shop in the Fairhaven area that was highly recommended on here a while back. Hopefully someone in that area will chime in. <> And of course, our very own HANK, who is located in Port Bay can most assuredly help you out <> Tim
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Seriously Glen, what does that matter? you still gotta catch the fish. Knowing what you have to beat doesn't change that one bit. How is that any different than the LOC updating the leaderboard as soon as the get the info? We run our LOTSA tournament exactly that way so as to minimize the number of fish killed. Fish have to be called in with the length and approximate weight as soon as possible after it is caught. That way, if you catch an 18 lber and you already know that there are 2 27's a 25 and a 24 reported in, you can release it if you want. Why kill a fish that has no chance of placing just to have something to weigh in. Tim
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Jeff, what on earth are you doing wrong to chew up your cable like that. I just replaced my original DR coated cable this spring after 6 seasons on the original one. I'm sure the X4 is an ok unit, but I'll never own one. My reasons, right or wrong, are well documented in these forums, and besides, I love my DR, far superior to the old FH 840 it replaced. Tim
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you started it
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Depth Raider All the Way!!
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Just remember this one important point about thunderstorms on the water. No matter how small your boat may be, you are still the tallest thing in the area and are therefore a lightning target. If you just can't get into a port, at least get as close to shore as possible so that there are taller objects around you.
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Oh, and to actually answer what I THINK was your question: never use crimps, the knot is a piece of cake to tie and lasts forever http://www.lotsa.org/Wire%20Line%20Knot.htm Tim
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I'm more of a Les Paul Guy myself Tim
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Folks, Every sportsmen in NYS needs to read this one...get out a postcard or letter and send it to the governor and NYSDEC...as noted. Copy this into your address line and go to: http://www.thefishingwire.com/story/241786 For the first time ever, this year, the NYS budget allows our governor to use the NYSCC Fund to balance the budget, this allows Feds to eliminate the $20M we get from Pittman-Robinson, Dingell-Johnson and Wallop-Breaux funding. Feds need to see a change from Albany in 30 days or less....or it's gone. What a great way to eliminate all hunting and fishing in NYS for all time! Was this an anti plan? No way to know, but your guess is probably as good as any.
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Fishing Report Your Name / Boat Name: Tim Bromund / FishStyx ============== TRIP OVERVIEW ============== Date(s):7-21-11 - 7-23-11 Time on Water:6:00-3:00, 5:30-12:30, 5:30-9:30 Weather/Temp:freaking hot Wind Speed/Direction:w-sw 20+, light w, 20+ NW Waves: 2-4+, calm, 2-4+ Surface Temp: 80-83 Location:Olcott LAT/LONG (GPS Cords): =============== FISHING RESULTS =============== Total Hits: who knows .... a crap load Total Boated:20+, 20+, 12+ Species Breakdown:kings, steelhead, browns Hot Lure: many, both spoons and flasher/flies Trolling Speed: Down Speed: 1.8-2.3 Boat Depth: 50-200 fow Lure Depth: 30-50' ==================== SUMMARY & FURTHER DETAILS ==================== Had my Uncle, Cousin and their friend Marvin come in to town from Ohio to do some salmon fishing with us, so I took a few day off work and we fished Thursday, Friday and Saturday Morning. 7-21-11: Strong W/SW winds on Thursday morning with 2s building to 2-4s and then laying down in the afternoon. started inside in front of the red barn in 60 fow and trolled WNW, lots of steelhead in there but we couldn't find any kings that wanted to play. Temps were still high in the inside water and we had 42-44 deg down 40 feet in the morning. Watched the temp profile change and temp get pushed down as the day progressed with that strong SW wind. Later in the morning with still no kings other than a couple skips we decided to head way inside and try for some browns, found the motherlode in 35 fow in front of the microwave and took a dozen brown in about an hour and a half including our boat's best brown ever of around 17 lbs, another in the 12-13 lb class and the rest mostly typical 6-8 lb cookie cutter footballs. All released except one bleeder that we had to box. Ended the with 20+ trout (between the steelies and the browns) boated, but no kings. Here's a pick of the big brown, sorry about the so so quality, taken on an older cell phone: 7-22-11: Friday was nice and flat and the Kings were active again. Temps were much deeper, but we fished the marks on the graph and the kings were feeding high and a little out of temp. high 50's to mid 60's) It was totally a spoon bite on riggers on Friday with the riggers parked at 40 and 50 feet. Old School NK Black and Purple continues to be a fish taker for us this season, particularly 1st thing in the morning, but once the sun came up, our better fish came on a 42 second stingray and had a big screamer on a NK 42 second that came unbuttoned 150 yds or so into it's initial run. Ended up with a 22 and a 24 in the box along with a bleeder steelhead and another bleeder brown. Fished til 12:30 and ended up the day again with over 20 bites. 7/23/11: Saturday was going to be a short day for us anyways. The marine forecast when last checked on friday evening called for light SW winds and waves 1 ft or less, but they were already 20 mph out of the NW with 2 footers and building. so I ran out to 50 fow in front of the microwave and we did an east troll with the waves. Fished 50-90 fow and again found active feeding fish up high. We fished one east pass till we reached the power plant, and in 2.5 hrs boated a dozen+ fish including 1 19 lb king and a couple 15-16 lb teenagers along with a number of skips and 2 browns. Unlike friday, all rigs were active and all six rods, both riggers (40 and 50 down),both wire divers (120 and 140 on a 2 setting), the 200 copper and 5 color core all took fish. NK Black and Purple again on the 50' diver took several shots as did the 42 second stingray on the 40' rigger, but the most action came on a white/green dot SD/Atommik Hammer Fly 120 back on the wire diver took the most shots. Albino Gator SD/Glow Ghost Siggs on the 200 copper took several shots as well. All in all, fishing continues to be stellar out of Olcott. Oh yeah, and ahhh, where have we seen THIS before Tim
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Noobie in need of help please
Tim Bromund replied to 007's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
Ok first question and we'll take it from there: What port have you been fishing out of? Tim -
Jeff, I've posted this pic/sketch here before but I'll do it again. Divers are deceptive, they are actually further away from the boat than they look, The line coming off the rod appears to be going straight back, but it bellys out after it is back a little ways and in reality looks something like this in the water. keeping the rod holder as flat and parallel to the water as possible helps also, note the diver rod in this pic Tim
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If you have an I/O and are talking about the boat wandering and you have to constantly correct course at slow/idle speed, that is normal for I/O boats. Every one that I've ever owned, or been on has done that. Tim