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If you can afford it, go with a Diawa Saltist reel. 6.1 to 1 gear ration and the smoothest drag system. It will not need a drag upgrade out of the box like a Tekota.

Berkely Big Game and Ande are two very popular monos used on Lake Ontario.

Nice Video Rick. That fishing platform makes that 29lber look like a minnow!

Run a mono main line with a floro leader. Floro is more abrasion resistant and is less visable to fish. Make sure you buy quality floro. Also make sure it is floro leader material not the stuff made to spool rods with.

Happy New Year. Sad to see 2012 come to a close. Hopefully 2013 is a good one for everyone!

. Good luck in the Draft Pete. Add some young talent to the Giants team and get everyone healthy. It is going to be an interesting next couple of years in the NFC East.

1' shallower than it was last year at this time.

My buddy fished it yesterday. Ice was very sketchy and the fshing sucked!

Camera is sold

Keith, I got the Black and white Marcum 385. I did not plan on getting it but Gander Mountain did not have anything else worth buying! I planned on buying some new rods for the boat but of course, Gander does not carry squat for lake trolling that is really usefull to us.

I have a 4 year old Marcum V250 underwater Camera that comes with a monitor, carrying case, extra monitor, extra carrying case, battery, brand new battery charger and camera. $75.00 takes it Camera is in good working condition. I have no idea how much more battery life is left. I'm selling it because I upgraded to a flat screen Marcum. Local pick up only.

That is a good on Tim.

I upgraded the probe when they first came out. It worked awesome with the old head unit until the display on the old head unit started going goofy. I purchased a new X4 bundle and now have the new unit along with a spare probe.

Long line, He may have had guns but they had to be ILLEGALLY obatined. Taking away guns will only arm the criminals. If we had the death penalty (to many liberals in NY) when he killed his grandmother, this sorry excuse for a man would have been worm food a long time ago. The justice system failed the first time and let this basket case out of prision.

Thoughts and prayers sent. This is a horrible event.

Searay2231, How did you get cheated out of $600.00?

Merry Christmas and Happy New Years. I hope everyone gets some fishing goodies in their stockings!

Why dump them in Ibay with all the perch that spend the fall / winter in the bay. Wouldn't they have and easier time in the lake? They look like perch food to me.

It would make sense to emlinate them from the Spring derby. More 19lb fish are killed in 10 days than there is in the summer derby and the fall derby. The bar is a magnet for lakers and easy pickings. Also there is a walleye division. Fewer fishermen than the trout guys AND they are a self sustaining fishery (0 stocked every year). We may have had some bad stocking years for lakers but the population is not hurting. I have seen the fish per hours of fishing for lakers climb the last 3 seasons. Dave is trying to promote the salmon in Lake Ontario. He should be promoting the ENTIRE fishery. We have a world class fishery for Coho, Kings, Steelhead, Browns AND lake trout. With out the trout, where would the fishery be? The down years in salmon fishing on the lake, trout saved the fishery. Just ask the East end fishermen what they did to survive on the crappy king years and the first couple months of the season. And as far as guys winning it over and over, anyone can fish lake trout. If they chose too, they should not be discriminated against in a derby that should be promoting the entire fishery!

Bust my chops all you want Keith I got big shoulders. I have a new goal for the Fall LOC. BROWN TROUT!!!!!!!!!! Jason, The shootout is the best run tourney on the Lake IMO. The guys that run it are fair and work hard to make this tourney what it is. Come join the fun.

Sorry for your loss Richard.

Scott, What is the weigh size for the childrens life vests? The little guy will be on the boat more and he is out growing the old one.

Agreed! Unfortunately Bri we don't fish close enough to either end of the lake to make a diff in the L.O.C. Entries may go down in the mid part of the lake now more than ever. Also, when I get 40th place in the salmon div. I'm taking that $10 to the bank!!!!! Scott, The salmon division is still only 20 places. He just doubled the money for each place. He has taken a 24.7% chance of placing away from the entrants. Would anyone still play the in the ground if your chances dropped 24.7%????? Also ONLY a salmon can win Grand Prize in all three derbies. I don't really care about that. Chris, Thanks for the kind words and support. I think a petition is in order. I will work on it the next couple of days.

Here is the response I got from Dave Chilson. Complete BS. Jason and Brian, Geez guys, I'm not sure if they would be considered "serious rule changes" by any stretch of the imagination but I will let you decide. I raised the Grand Prize in the Spring Contest from $12,500 to $15,000, In the Summer it is going from $7500 to $10,000 and the fall is being raised from $20,000 to $25,000 and doubled all the division pay outs for the Salmon division in the fall. That's serious I guess.....With NO increase in entry fees. You can check out the complete prize payout break down at www.loc.org. The only change I have made to the rules regards Lake trout. Lake trout are still in the Spring and Summer contests and have been eliminated from the Fall Derby. We have had problems with lake trout stocking since the closure of the Lake Trout hatchery in 2006 due to disease and this year we received none to put into Lake Ontario. The USF&W is conducting a Lake Trout study in the Lower Niagara river and is seeking assistance in retrieving tagged fish, more information to come when it gets finalized. We want to help them in this effort and we surely don't want to put excessive amounts of pressure on this species. We are making the onus of the Fall Derby on King Salmon. We are working with the counties in a renewed push to highlight the King Salmon fishing in New York. We believe it is the best place in the country to consistently catch large Kings in good numbers. The West coast (which includes Alaska) has taken a big hit on their salmon and when you compare size and catch rates, nothing competes with Lake Ontario. And nothing compares with salmon for drawing visitors to the waters of Lake Ontario. The reality of the Lake Trout division is that participation by derby entrants is very low. A small contingent of angler’s actively target the species and consistently place in the division, that’s for sure! If you look at past Leader boards you will see what I mean. Take last fall for example. FIVE boats, Escape, Wet Net, Reel Crazy, Killer B’s and Ramblin Rose took over 60% of all division prizes and 80% of all daily prizes in the Lake trout division! Of course the Lake Trout Youth Winner came on one of the five boats. For a few it has pretty much turned into a guaranteed income stream so I can see where they would be upset. Quite honestly the vast majority of people hearing about the changes and increase to the prize structure thought they were positive. Feel free to disseminate as you see fit and thanks for your support of the LOC Derby. Have a Merry Christmas Dave Chilson LOC Derby