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Most guys start running them in mid August. You can run them off of anything, leadcore, copper, riggers and dipsies. Remember they do dive some so run them short enought that they will not tangle.

Come on Tom, give the guy a break. He will still buy your flies to cover up the fact that he is now a laker fisherman!!!!!!!

Whats next FISHINMAN fishes lakers?

You will never get that slime off. Just ask Jax. The lakers will flock to your boat now.

That Yankee Troller was fishing lakers yesterday. Rick, is this true? A buddy of mine went by and saw cowbells flying behind the Yankee Troller boat. If this is true, get out the icefishing stuff because hell is going to freeze over.

I know we could get a strong showing from the Sandy guys. I know Foster22, Legacy, Scottb, Running Rebel, Trout N about, Jax, Tank, Gator, and others fish tournies. Hopefully we can get them in it. Let me know Matt, I would be more than willing to help organize something.

I suggested a Rochester Pro-Am two seasons ago and got blasted for it. I would love to see more derbys in the Rochester area. I fished the Orleans Derby of the Month and liked it. It was small but well run. I'm looking forward to the next one on September 6th. I think you could get enough people to enter if something was put together. How about a Monroe County Derby of the Month out of Irondequoit, The Genesee, and Sandy.

Jet Boat Bill, Do you have pictures of the cooler? I'm interested.

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/app ... 1/ROCEARTH Isn't Phosphorus good for the plankton and the bait fish?

I heard it from Yankee Troller yesterday when he called me. I have not heard anything from some guys up that way.

I own a Fish Hawk and it is ok. I have been on boats with the Depth Raider and the Moor and I would have to say the Depth Raider is best out of the three. When my Fish Hawk dies, I will be going with the Depth Raider. The digital display and the smaller probe is great.

8/20 Fished 80 -90 FOW and did 2 kings, 1 coho and 5 lakers. Live wire Spin Doctor with the green hammer A-Tom-Mik, the stinger NBK, and familiar bite took all the fish. Fish came 55 - 70 down. Biggest king was 24.5 lbs. 8/21 Fished Braddocks to Watoma in 90 -125 FOW and did 7 kings and 1 atlantic. NK chicken wing, Mt. Dew Spin Doctor with the green crinkle A-Tom-Mik, and the green Spin Doctor with the green hammer A-Tom-Mik took all the fish. Biggest king of the day was 27.5 lbs. 8/22 Fished from Sandy to the Nose in 55 - 65 FOW. Took the first rip on the 200' copper off the board. After almost being spooled, we boated a 28 lb king. After taking a small king, the action slowed. Worked out to 300 - 350 FOW and took five more king from 10 - 20 lbs and 4 steelhead from 4 - 10 lbs. All the fish came down 35 -50 down. The kings came off the wires out 150' on a 3 setting and riggers down 45 and 40 with NBK, and Gator stingers. The steelies came on the high riggers down 35 on the NBK. Ended the day 11 for 16 with the biggest being the 28 lbs. fish.

Foster, Again, congrats. Hopefully it will stay high up on the board for you.

One the label on the package, it has reccomended lenghts for each application. I believe the furthest back they recommend is 25'.

FABCOACH, Wire line is Satinless steal 7 strand 30lb. wire. It is a lot thinner than downrigger cable. It is used on a rod and reel. No downriggers are necessary if you use a dispy diver. Wire with a dispy will achieve depths of 100+' with the correct amount of line out. Wire dipsy setups can be the best producers on the boat (especially in August).

All youth competes as an adult. They are recognized on the leaderboard as a youth. There used to be a separate youth division but it was taken out. The one year at the awards ceremony, a kid was asked by Dave Chilson how he caught the fish and the kid replied "I did not catch the fish my dad did". Oops.

Day the and we are at 35.12 out of Olcott. Wow. maybe we will see 40 lbs. this year.

I use the same system as you Rustyrat.

Does anyone know when they are going to do the Fall NK sale?

Spike, I don't think they are made to run together. Ithink it is just a promotional deal.

Nice job Fishstix. How big was the second brown?

Troutguy, It sounds like you are running your setups to high in the water column. I run my flashers in water ranging from 42 degrees up to the upper 60's. At this time of the year, most of the fish are down past the depth you are fishing. If you do not have a speed and temp unit, I would suggest buying one. I run my fly leaders anywhere from 21" up to 32". I have some tied up short and some longer. Some days they will come in and smash a fly close. Some days they want the fly a little longer. As for the distance off the ball, 15' will work fine. Some days they want it closer and some days it is longer leads that work. Vary the distances in your spread and let the fish tell you what they want.

The Erie canal is loaded with smallies. You can catch just about anything in there. Troll crankbaits or cast rapalas along the banks for smallies. You may pick up a walleye here or there trolling cranks. The outlet at I-bay can be great at times. There are bass and pike in the channel and just outside the bay in the lake. In Mid September, the perch will be easy pickings in the channel. The piers at the Genesee River can be good. You can get walleyes, catfish and bass off the piers in the river and on the lake side. Lots of guys fish the rock piles with jigs in the river and do good on occasion.

Tank, I had 3 kings all 22 and change. I had one king that was 42" long but it was the skinniest king I have every seen. It weighed 22.14. I was worried when the one guy pulled out an 18 and a 28 for his first 2. The last one was a very small fish ( If I remember correctly it was a small steelie).

Put the bait in the bait head, put a tooth pick through the bait head and the bait. Then you need to put a toothpick in the top of the baithead to keep the hooks in place. I run the treble just past the tail of the bait. You can run them clean (no flasher) or behind a flasher. I like running them behind Spin Doctors with a 48" lead.