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Weighted steel and floro are gone pending payments.

I have some odd and end stuff I’m offloading. Here there are below: torpedo weighted steel 200’ - $25.00 torpedo 4oz shark weight -$15.00 2 spools of Yozuri 40lb floro $10.00 I will ship to the lower 48 at buyers expense.

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Read the link I posted……

I have four slightly used walleye boards. Two left side and two right side. One season old and like new condition. $80.00 plus $10 shipping to the lower 48 or pick up in Hilton NY for $80.

That’s great to hear about the wild kings. A DEC rep to come of websites like this and talk about current issues / trends in the fishery would be awesome no matter what the topics. Talking to the public about what is going on and what they are doing would put a lot of the theories to rest. They do a great job coming to the Charter Association and club meetings but social media would reach more people. This site would be a great place for this interaction.

You would think the DEC would have a rep to come on these boards and talk shop with us. They do a good job coming to meetings but why not do more? Lake managers would more than likely be the ones to do the job or appoint someone that would. I wouldn’t think they would want someone to just come here and give us info without running the info through them first.

From filleting tons of lakers, I can tell you they eat gobies but only when alewife aren’t present. Their diet consonant of more alewife than gobies. Now browns, I have found about a 50/50 mix of alewife and gobies.

Page six from the link I posted earlier in this thread. Bait condition is up compared to 20 years ago. Not assuming, reading the data.

The bait biomass has been getting bigger in the past five years. Steelhead size is down but Brown and lakers size is not. We still see 20+ lb browns like the old days and the lakers caught in the last 10 or so years are big. We can't use the LOC leaderboards to gauge trout sizes for the most part. IF king fishing is unreal like it has been, the numbers of guys targeting trout is way down. Less people targeting trout specifically = less big trout caught. Yes there are incidentals but not as many as if they are targeted. Same goes for steelhead. If guys aren't venturing past 150' of water all summer because the kings are loaded inside, there is less chance of running into bigger and more steelhead.

It's laziness. If they have to handle a couple extra fish to get the appropriate amount of eggs / milt / eye up to reach stocking goals, do it. Take from your biggest females and biggest males first. Last resort, take from smaller fish.

Some new genetics would be great but not all new. The Lake Ontario strain has adpated to Lake Ontario. We do not want to lose that. When the DEC has been asked about it, they shut it down. We are not asking for all new genetics. Why not try 25% of the eggs for one season?

Bingo! Why not strive for better no matter how great it is!

Like Billy said, the early 2000's king weights were heavy. That was after the big cut. Alewife numbers were lower than the 70's, 80's and 90's in the early 2000's. The current bait biomass is way up compared to 2016-2019 yet those fish were bigger. Remember those two missing year classes of alewife? It's not a bait problem. In the last five years, we have had good to record hatches in a row.

WeidelEtal_2023LkOntario_AprilPreyfishAlewifeReport.pdf (glfc.org) You may want to read page 6 of the alewife trawl report from last year.

The numbers of fish is awesome but I would like to see a happy medium. The opportunity to catch a 30+ lb king and numbers of kings. Lake Michigan cut stocking and saw an increase in king size. We cut stocking and the size didn't change. We were force fed that the king size was down due to the bait levels. The bait biomass is way up yet size hasn't increased. Didn't the DEC stock some sterile kings that were supposed to get to 50lbs years ago? If so, lets pen rear some those fish and get some pigs swimming in Lake Ontario again!

Vince said it was 48" long!

https://www.facebook.com/share/CzmoTvKqvYHq8nbB/?mibextid=WC7FNe A 37.5 lb king was caught in Wilson today. A true 4 year old….

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Congrats Zach. A laker over 25 doesn't come along very often on Lake Ontario!