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They do not survive well with alewife as the main forage. The original strains are gone and the ones they stock are doing ok but not great. The Canadians stock 600,000 a year and get less than 20 returning adults a year. That would be wonderful for everyone...….

You have to use your Fish Hawk with your fish finder together. Fish the marks on your fish finder and use the Fishhawk for repeatability.

No one is saying all trib guys are unethical snaggers Dave. I know tons of respectable trib anglers and have fished with some of them. It is the bad apples that I hate and b*tch about (both land and boat). Here is a question you might be able to answer Dave: How has TU not used its pull to get the state to do more about the issues on the LO tribs?

It is high for a 93 21' boat but price out a stringer and transom job and you will see that the price isn't that bad!

I use 30lb Power Pro.

Spoons off riggers, slide divers, wire divers, leadcores, coppers and drop weights off plainer boards depending on how deep they are. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

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55 works but don't rule out 60-65 degree water. I find 62 degrees the sweet spot.

Brown fishing is good all season. if you change tactics and stay on them, the fishing can be better than it is now. I find more big browns once the move deeper and the thermal cline sets up.

Every clown converted is a plus. If they would just realize learning to fish tribs the right way, they would learn it is easier and more fun. Although, they would be stripping eggs and skeins to have more bait.....

Education is a great starting point. The biggest issues are lack of enforcement, courts throwing these tickets out and laughable fines. If the DEC could make strides on those three things, it would make a big difference. If guys were getting tickets, the violations stuck and they had to pay a real fine, they might think twice.

I have been running them too and feel they are not as durable as the Heartlands were and the medium action rigger rods seem a little lighter action than the heartlands.

Sounded like no life jacket. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Reaching out to the trib guys for pen rearing? If that is what you are talking about, Dave Agness has gotten involved in the pen rearing to bring more trib guys in. The sandy project we have not seen it (one or two new guys) but our project has a great volunteer base compared to other projects. I don’t know if those efforts were focused elsewhere or not. I can’t speak for the other projects. Like you, I look at it from all sides. I trib fish on occasion, lake fish and have worked for charter captains over the years. The trib section has rules about naming small tribs. It is LOU policy. If guys can’t follow the rules, they should be called out. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

I do agree that some people are having a power struggle issue with these regs. When a small group of trib guys pushes the DEC to change the regs for their own sake, it pisses people off. You also have to look at things from a charter captains point of view. Every time creel limits are reduced, it has the possibility of affecting their business (that most depend on as their livelihood). There are some people that come to get a great day on the water and bring some fish home for some meals. These charter clients are making one trip to Lake O and getting their fish in one shot. It is not like myself that wants a meal and keeps one for the grill when I am ready to have a meal. These new steelhead regs do not affect me much since I do not fish them often. Last season I only caught 18 steelhead over the entire season. I don’t care if a guy keeps a steelhead and uses the eggs to make egg sacks. That is perfectly legal and ethical. Stripping eggs and stressing the fish, slitting their belly’s and discarding the carcasses stream side is what burns my a$$. You may think I am against trib guy but I am not. I have spent many hours on the tribs in the last 25 years. These discussions should not divide any of us. This photo should piss sportsmen off and want to push the DEC to do more about these issues that affect us all. With the pen projects, most projects want to keep the steelhead. Also trib anglers participation is VERY VERY low in the pen projects. The sandy project we get a couple of guys and that’s great. These pen projects benefit everyone and participation is lower than it should be. No one has trouble going out and using the fishery but when it comes time to give a little time, donations, etc, a small group comes forward to help. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

For some it may be a power struggle. For me it is about what is best for the fishery. Having trout stuffed in the tribs as easy pickings and very little enforcement is an issue. Enforce the laws on the books and clean up the tribs and I have zero issues with changing the regulations to have more fish in the system. Then again, isn't this fishery a put and take fishery?

The mud slinging towards the trib guys is towards the Non-sportsmen (snaggers, lifters, egg strippers, trespassers, ect.) in the group yet some respectable trib guys defend the entire group. I'm shocked they have not been on this thread yet.....