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hopefully this will http://www.lakeontariounited.com/fishin ... .php?t=817

jeremy, theres a ton of posts on this subject if you find the time to scroll through them. seems to be alot of fishhawks in use but in my opinion new sales seem to be between subtroll and depth raider. personally i own a subtroll and have been very pleased with it.

scott, casting sticks works great especially on wautoma and swimming bucktails too.

erabbit, just to load you up with even more info and to add to billyv........ the past few weeks ive ben playing with leader lengths and spinny setting. the friday "practice fishing day" during the niagara proam we did 8 kings on the wire dipsey rod on an nbk spin doctor (#sd70925) on the opposite holes from factory w/ 19" fly leader. on saturday i couldnt catch a fish on it and the hot setup became spin doctor (#sd70905) on the opposite holes w/ 22" fly leader. truth is you never know what the fish want, so dont be afraid to switch it up. 3 different guys 3 different answers.

nice pics guys.

tank, i have never used the add-a-line style but the seem like they would be a pain to rig. i used to use the rubber band style until i found the roemer liberators. i think they cost about $7.00 so if you dont like them you really havent invested much into them.

hey tom, i saw you guys coming into the creek as i went over the bridge. is it always an adventure fishing with you?

gambler, typically i use 30# big game and good swivels on both ends of my leaders (one to the spoon and one to the roemer) and have never experienced line twist. i really dont understand how you could get line twist. just fishing, you definetely need to increase the distance between rigs.i use an 8' leader for my cheater and about 8'-12' separation between them.

i use roemer liberator releases for my cheaters

welcome to the site billy

roemer liberators work great too http://www.tacklehaven.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=k6262000&Category_Code=DOWNRIGGERSACCESS-ROEMER&Product_Count=0

tim, on saturday, the first day of the niagara proam, it was the first thing to fire. i actually reeled it in all the way to the liberator and saw the 8# on the line and said wow hes tough fish and then all hell broke loose., great way to start the day and put them both in the cooler.

just to add on to what momay was saying........ i run this rig alot on my boat (almost always with less than six rods in the water). typically i run it deeper than 50' down. i believe it will out produce a single spoon at the same depth any day of the week. dont be afraid to run the same size spoons or to reverse the setup (big on bottom, small on top). at the niagara proam we actually double up on the mupped rod (21# and 8# king, talk about fun, try 2 kings on the same rod)

nice catch jeremy. wish i had that for the proam today

flies were horrible on thurs. the boat was absolutey covered in them. on friday the little ****ers started biting. it was extremely bad :evil:

i run spoons however they arrive in the package. on my rods i tie a good coast lock swivel on w/ a palomar knot

nice video, larry

last weekend during the proam we ran 4 downriggers (1 w/ a cheater, 2 dipsey rods (wire) , and 2 leadcore rods ( a 10 color and an 8 color) on a 10' beam without using planer boards. 1. pay attention to your leads and depths 2. be careful on your turns 3. if you have a big fish on clear the leadcore 4. if you do get tangled .....good luck you can run 2 wire dipsey rods on the same side by running the first one deep and tight ,and the other high and wide. when you get a nice fish on dont be afraid to pull lines that are high in the water column.

tank, dont fix the radio, i was just getting use to all the static.

lots and lots and lots of them but isnt it nice to complain about catching loits of kings!

it is his first post..............................hmmm..............

gotta throw my vote in for the subtroll 900!!!!

i run them too without problems. the only thing ive found is if you bend them too much they actually "swim". so try not to over bend them. and like mark said make sure you use them on the right side of the boat.

maybe ill see ya in olcott on fri