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surface temps and buoys http://www.coastwatch.msu.edu/cwlinks.html http://www.coastwatch.msu.edu/twoontarios.html sunrise, sunset, moon info http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneDay.html lake currents http://www.glerl.noaa.gov/res/glcfs/glcfs.php?lake=o&ext=sfcur&type=N&hr=00 temp transects http://www.glerl.noaa.gov/res/glcfs/glcfs.php?lake=o&ext=vwt&type=N&hr=00

another vote for the subtroll!!!! theres a bunch of posts discussing speed and temp units on this board. look under "this old boat" or do a search. you should be able to find all the info you need.

can any of you guys recommend a good "marine quality" snowbrush? possibly telescoping? do you guys use 4' or 6'? light weight? maybe aluminum or carbon? what types of handles do you prefer? a durable brush? is nylon too stiff? do you guys sharpen the scraper? or do they come sharp "enough"? 6" of snow on the boat on easter........anyone sick of snow yet?

real nice report......good to see someone out there fishing

jerry, you dont want him to catch your pet fish?

this site is becoming full of sarcasism.........

once you have 4wd youll never buy anything else................

went to the sale today, with out a doubt its worth the trip guys.

i think they put the docks in the 2nd week of april?

im shooting for april fools day to have the boat in the water for the season. should have the boat uncovered by this weekend. looks to be a nice week from weds on.

about 6-7 years ago during the spring loc derby, we all loaded in my buddies boat in sandy and headed out for a evening of fishing. the lake was rolling 4' or better and had our first release before we got out of the mouth. "the fish" would take line then the line would go slack and after 15-20 min i landed a beautiful....................... plastic wegmans bag. the stick hooked both handles damn thing fought like h*ll

im sure theres some good stories out there so......... whats everyones oddest or funniest catch?

i couldnt even come up with an answer to my own post. i guess if you broke it down to time of year then it might be easier to make a choice.(spring= ff, summer=s+t, fall=ff) it would probably work out to be 50/50 im thinking every time we are out there we rely more on one than the other. (some days we fish bait balls, some days we fish temp, etc) but i dont think i could ever leave the dock again without both i just love to see the debates

lets say you have a "in dash" depthfinder on your boat (so depth and safety arent a question) and you had to choose between bringing your fishfinder, and bringing your speed and temp probe for a day of fishing............

hey pat, all hell broke loose on sandy yesterday, looked pretty wild, i guess i should be glad my dock survived

gambler, welcome to sandy

any of you guys noticed a big difference in hook ups using tandom rigs instead of running just single trebles?

Sandy Creek

welcome to the site

fished from 630-1130, real nice day to be out. had big crew out today. first hour produced 75% of the perch. slowly got worse as the day went on. finished the day w/ 25 perch and one sunfish. tip-ups seem to turn on (for everyone out there) about 900, we had 6 flags all on live chubs, iced one pike about 20".

father in-law and myself got a late start, we fished from 10-2? caught 70-80 perch, 40 keepers, lost a bunch too. few other guys that were out were doing real well too. constant bite w/ 2 jigging rods (perch jigs and niagaras)

i hear ya. the guy at the booth told me to stay till my kid caught one, hes 4 years old. :shock: (nice bow, about 12" down, over 30" of water on a no see um grub w/ no tail, 1- 1.5 on the gps)

NYSDEC Lake Ontario Annual Report 2006 Section 18 Page 1 2006 New York Cooperative Trout and Salmon Pen-Rearing Projects M.A. Wilkinson New York State Department of Environmental Conservation 270 Michigan Avenue Buffalo, New York 14203 M.J. Sanderson New York State Department of Environmental Conservation 6274 East Avon-Lima Road Avon, New York 14414 S.E. Prindle New York State Department of Environmental Conservation 1285 Fisher Avenue Cortland, New York 13045 In 1998, concerns over post-stocking survival and imprinting of steelhead and chinook salmon to stocking sites led to the formation of several cooperative sportsmen’s groups interested in pen rearing (Bishop and Pearsall 1999). Concerns from the eastern basin of Lake Ontario centered on the predation of stocked steelhead by cormorants. Western basin concerns included the apparent lack of imprinting and subsequent impaired homing of chinook salmon and steelhead to the stocking streams. After the successful completion of pen-rearing projects at Oswego Harbor and Oak Orchard Creek in 1998, a number of other sportsmen’s groups expressed interest in pen-rearing. New sites were added in 1999, including the Lower Niagara River, Sandy Creek, Genesee River and Sodus Bay. No additional sites were added until 2003, when a new pen project for Skamania steelhead was initiated at Little Salmon River. In 2005, a chinook pen-rearing project was initiated at Olcott Harbor on Eighteenmile Creek and steelhead were added here in 2006. Also in 2006, a steelhead pen-rearing project was initiated at Wilson Harbor and only steelhead were raised at the Lower Niagara and Sandy Creek penrearing projects. All sites have been active each year since inception, except for Sandy Creek which was inactive in 2004 and 2005. Evaluations of the pen-rearing studies conducted at Oak Orchard Creek and the Lower Niagara River are reported in Bishop et al. (2006). This report summarizes 2006 pen-rearing activities and results Methods All sites, except the Lower Niagara River, used similar pen materials, design and netting as described for the 1998 Oak Orchard Creek Project in Bishop and Pearsall (1999). Standard operating procedures for stocking, maintaining, feeding, and releasing penned salmon were developed and refined by NYSDEC (Wilkinson 1999, Sanderson 2006). Differences are noted under each specific site description. Table 1 provides characteristics of each of the pen-rearing sites. Observed mortalities for all projects were based on the number of dead fish collected from the pens during captivity and from the bottom of the pens after release. Both sources of mortality were noted by cooperators, except where listed otherwise. Mortality does not include fish lost to cannibalism or from predators that may have gained access to pens. Little Salmon River Five thousand Skamania steelhead were placed into three pens at Salmon Country Marina on 18 April. The steelhead were administered a double fin clip (adipose and left pectoral fin); the standard clip for all New York stocked Lake Ontario Skamania steelhead. Penned steelhead were fed five times daily, and pens were cleaned twice during the rearing period. Water temperature was measured once each day. On 9 May, after 21 days of rearing, the pen was towed to the mouth of the Little Salmon River, where the NYSDEC Lake Ontario Annual Report 2006 Section 18 Page 2 steelhead were released. Oswego Harbor Twenty thousand steelhead were placed by the Oswego Net Pen Group into three pens at Oswego Marina on the Oswego River on 14 April. Forty thousand chinook were also placed into two pens on the same date. Penned steelhead and Chinook were generally fed five times daily, although on some days, the fish were fed as infrequently as three times per day. Water temperature was recorded at most feedings. Pen netting cleaning times were not recorded during the pen rearing period. Steelhead were released on 5 May (22 days in pens) and salmon were released on 8 May (25 days in pens) by releasing them at the pen site. Both species were released without towing to the Lake, as had been done in previous years. Sodus Bay On 12 April, 52,600 Chinook were placed into two pens near First Creek at Sodus Bay. Chinook were piped to the pens directly from the hatchery truck. Feeding was performed five times per day, and pens were cleaned weekly during the rearing period. Water temperature was monitored with a digital recording device starting on 12 April. Dissolved Oxygen was measured on 1 May with a YSI Model 55 meter. On 6 May, after 25 days of rearing, the pens were towed into the open lake. The fish were released in approximately 25 feet of water lakeward, and east of, Sodus Bay Channel. Pens were inverted to release the fish. Genesee River The Genesee Charter Association, in conjunction with Irondequoit Bay Fish and Game Club and Greater Rochester Sportfishery Association, used six pens located at Shumway Marina in the Genesee River for raising steelhead and Chinook.Ten thousand steelhead were placed into two pens on 11 April. Chinook (85,250) were placed in four pens also on 11 April. The pens were gravity-loaded by piping the steelhead and salmon from the hatchery truck. Feeding was performed five times per day, and pens were cleaned once weekly. Water temperature was monitored with a digital recorder starting on 11April. Dissolved Oxygen was measured on 28 April with a YSI Model 55 meter. Steelhead and Chinook were released on 29 April and 3 May, respectively, by inverting the pens on site. Chinook were released four days after the steelhead to reduce potential predation by steelhead upon recentlystocked chinook. Sandy Creek The Sandy Creek project was a community group effort. Volunteers included SUNY Brockport students, Boy Scouts, high school groups, charter captains, and community members. On 14 April, 7,300 steelhead were placed into two pens in the Sandy Creek Marina basin. The steelhead were piped to the pens directly from the hatchery truck. The pens were then towed from the basin to the creek immediately adjacent to the marina, and tied to a private residence dock. The pens were oriented with the pens’ long axis parallel to water flow. Feeding was performed six times per day, and pens were cleaned once a day during the rearing period. Water temperature was monitored with a digital recording device starting on 14 April. Dissolved Oxygen was measured on 24 and 28 April with a YSI Model 55 meter. On 29 April, after 16 days of rearing, the pens were inverted to release the fish at the pen site. Oak Orchard Creek The Oak Orchard Business Association sponsored this pen project. On 10 April, 14,000 steelhead were delivered to Lake Breeze Marina and placed into three pens. On the same date, 85,250 Chinook were placed into four pens at the same location. A PVC extension pipe was used to transfer steelhead and Chinook into pens located farthest from the shore. Trout and salmon were fed four times daily, and pens were cleaned every two days. Water temperature was monitored with a digital recording device starting on 10 April. Dissolved Oxygen was measured on 24 April with a YSI Model 55 meter. The steelhead and salmon were released after 17 days on 26 April by towing the pens to the river mouth at Point Breeze. Eighteenmile Creek The Eighteenmile Creek pen project was sponsored by Lake Ontario Trout and Salmon Association (LOTSA), Town of Newfane, Niagara County Fisheries Development Board, Niagara County “Skip Hartmanâ€Â

when i installed mine last year i didnt mount it permanent. i just replaced the swivels on my rigger with the ones they provided. the directions with the one i got last year only gave instructions on a permanent mount, so make sure to read them first. make sure to buy some zip ties and buy a cable crimper. need a hand let me know i live in hamlin

i like to call it fishing the "birds nest"