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Seneca Trout derby no scales north end?!
hermit replied to FLXWaterfowler's topic in Finger Lakes Discussion
Hmmm I didn't check the scale setup when I stopped by at 1:30 but 12.52 lb was top of the board and around 10 the bottom (for lakers) not counting the Watkins weigh station. There was no shortage of wind today so maybe it was just solar? That wind made things interesting and we didn't go more than a few miles south of Geneva... can't imagine fishing Sampson and Watkins! -
Hi all, not sure where to put this but I have 1 1/4 oz ball head jigs available starting this weekend 5/18. Poured with a brand new custom mold on the same Mustad 32746BN hooks as the 1 oz ball heads. Good for getting down just a little bit faster. Jig heads are available at http://deepwater.cayugafisher.net. The new ones will be in the store tomorrow morning. Derby sale this weekend! For the Seneca Lake NLTD, this Saturday through Monday I'll have free shipping on orders over $60 and $3 shipping on orders over $20. Some more info about the sale can be seen at http://cayugafisher.net/pages/repdex.php. Thanks for reading and have a great weekend, Alec
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Thanks everyone very helpful.
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Anyone know how to sign up last minute? I won't know if I can do it until early next week, too late to mail it in. Website didn't say anything about it. Thanks, Alec
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Cayuga Barney & Bear's 27th Annual Spring Derby
hermit replied to Splitshot115's topic in Finger Lakes Discussion
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Hi StuMan, my store is at http://deepwater.cayugafisher.net. Thanks for asking. Also everyone, by this weekend I should have a larger ball jig on the same hooks as the 1 oz balls. I'm doing the mold by hand so I'm not quite up to 1.5 but I should have a 1.25 by then. I do have minnow heads in 1.5 oz. I'll have more details up on the site tomorrow I hope. (Friday) Thanks all! Alec
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Yeah those Keuka fish are hard to hook with a regular jig. Relatively small mouths and they often just nip at the back. Either use a jigging spoon, a tube spoon rig, or add a stinger on your regular jig like tonyb said. I like using size 2 or sometimes 4 octopus hooks and braid to tie it on. Prep a few before going fishing. Tie it to the eye of the hook so you can replace the plastics and when baiting thread it just under the plastic in two places to keep it from tangling.
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dipsy setup question.
hermit replied to BALLS DEEP's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
How about the inline board and one flatlining with no dipseys on either? Say I want to set a board out with another rod on the same side just pulling a stick. How would I go about doing all this without them interfering? Neither lure is running more than 10 feet down for example. Do I need to keep the distance back on the flatline rod shorter than the distance I set the board? If I have it 150' back I don't really want to set the board out more than that, or even half that. Or would I actually be better off running two inlines off that side? I can make it all work with deeper stuff but can't figure out how to do it while targeting the top 10 feet or so. -
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I have been carp fishing recently, a mix of spinning, centerpin, and fly. Either I'm getting better at it or the fishing is improving. Probably both. I saw a lot of bullhead caught especially recently, so if you want dinner go for it. Also goldfish and sunnies. 5/2: Caught a bunch of stuff. Smallmouth, goldfish, and one carp in the mid-teens for weight. This was on the fly rod, mostly dead drifting nymphs. Great fight on the carp, well into my backing. The bass were great, one was very acrobatic and a superb fighter. 5/6: Caught a bunch more stuff. Centerpinning today. Sunfish, goldfish, and one carp around 20 lbs. First carp on the pin! Very cool. 5/8: Mostly goldfish with one carp landed. Mix of pinning and spinning. Landed one nice one (pic) around 25 lbs, maybe a little under, 35" x 25". Had another big carp on, much bigger, that eventually popped off after a heck of a fight. It's like trying to stop a meat torpedo! Or maybe not a torpedo they're not as fast. Maybe they're the donkeys of the fish world, smarter than they seem and hard to bully around. The goldfish is from this day too. 5/10: Best day yet. 3/5 on orange fatties. No pics. First one wrapped up on a sunken log after a few minutes, had to break it off eventually. Second (first landed) no problems, 20 lbs or so. Next hookup it goes right into my other line, which doesn't affect the catching but does cause a big mess to fix after. Probably 22-24 lbs or so. Then an hour later zing, fish on! I fight this one until it's close to the bank when my other rod fires, I'm doubled up on carp! Land the first one asap and grab the other rod, it's been about two minutes of freespooling and the carp took at least 100 yards of line. I'm glad it wasn't going top speed but it was definitely on the run. Tighten it up and start fighting it, it's gone. Pretty exciting though! Stuck it out a while longer but that was it for action. I've been fishing both flies, and some traditional English methods, mostly various ways of fishing the hair rig and bolt rig. I've been experimenting with bait, no favorites yet. The best ones are left alone by the sunnies and bullhead. No worms unless you want bullhead. I had the good fortune to meet a real live Englishman about 8 years back that gave me some good tips and really gave me the bug. Google did the rest more recently. Anyway... they're a ton of fun and the biggest fish around!
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Seen similar before- was told it was pretty normal. I can't really remember all that well but about 5 years back it was happening and there was some concern about VHS, but the DEC said it's not here in Cayuga and was a normal spring thing. But my memory there is a bit foggy for details. Missed a few years recently so don't know about the interval. I sure hope it's not some disease making itself known.
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Great day! :yes:
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Holy smokes! Billy V on Cayuga April 26th, 2013
hermit replied to Billy V's topic in Finger Lakes Discussion
Temps are right, we had the same today! Warm and full of fish! It was 46 all the way to Bolton Point. -
Excellent fishing today! (As previously noted!) Met up with guff and went looking for salmon. Our first fish was the fattest pickerel I've ever seen, a real beauty. After that it was game on with salmon, we lost count pretty quickly but as Billy V said the first two hours were non-stop, hardly a dull moment. It then slowed up as the morning went on but we were catching fish even as we pulled into the channel on the way home. We probably ended up with close to 20 fish running 3 rods. Biggest was a hair shy of 23" with two other keepers, one dropped at the boat and the other landed successfully. Almost everything came from the top 5 feet with a few down deeper later in the morning. We also caught a lamprey which hit a stick. Anything we put down took a whack or three with firetiger doing quite a bit of the work including the big one. One hiccup happened when a fish bolted and the line got caught in my prop. The salmon left and I managed to get guff's lure back and after 10-15 minutes got the prop cleared and we were back in business. Edit: 2.1-2.4 on the GPS worked for us, that's about as slow as I go at the moment (mechanic adjusted idle too high and I need to lower it again.) Rapalas and small spoons. A great week, also made a quick trip yesterday and did pretty well for the post-frontal conditions, got a 22", a 19", two shorts, and cast sticks for another 2 almost legal fish.
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Billy V & Rusty Rat on Cayuga - April 24, 2013
hermit replied to Billy V's topic in Finger Lakes Discussion
Billy V, thanks, think I'll have to get some big boards someday. Congrats again on a great day you guys! -
Billy V & Rusty Rat on Cayuga - April 24, 2013
hermit replied to Billy V's topic in Finger Lakes Discussion
Great day, sounds awesome! RR sorry to hear about the boat. How many rods were you guys running? I'm still trying to figure out how to do 4 without a mess. I'll be back out there before the weekend can't wait! -
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Thanks Ed! good to see you'll be out there soon, good luck. jusgrinnin, yeah it wasn't that bad just a bit much for 1 guy going crosswise to the wind, boat's very light and if I let go of the tiller I'd spin right around. Did have one minor tangle which was when I switched to casting. Would have been fine with 2 guys or going with the wind. Probably gusting to around 20. Great morning overall!
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Launched at Treman, first line in just before 6:30. Didn't even get the second one going before the first one went, picked up a 17" brown. Good sign. Very good fishing until eight or so when the wind picked up and made boat control difficult. Tried trolling up the east side with the wind but quickly ran into cold water. Battled the wind for a bit before switching over to casting, cast for an hour and caught another nice salmon. All told 11/13 with 1 brown, two rainbows 18-20", and the rest salmon 16-22". Kept one of the salmon and a rainbow that had been attacked by a pike or something, it was pretty beat up. Nothing huge but a busy first hour and a half and a lot better than last trip. Sticks in firetiger and black/silver, small spoons in purple/silver and green/silver. Didn't put anything down deeper than 10-12 feet. Water 48 at the mouth, 44-46 on the shelf and 43 further north. Also saw the Cornell guys towing the RUSS out into the lake, passed them in the inlet on the way in. Edit: 4 lamprey on 3 fish, all 6-8".
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It's been open for a few weeks now, have at it!
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This is where I'd start. They are sometime in shallower but most lakers will remain deep until the thermocline starts setting up. Also, wind! Too much wind... driving me nuts.
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Have you tried fishing with the 6? My boat isn't much bigger and with a 15 hp it goes plenty slow enough at idle, slower than I troll. I don't know about 1 mph but it definitely goes 1.4-5 probably slower. As for the throttle it should be an easy adjustment but you may need a part. I had to fix mine a few years back and it only took a few minutes but I did replace a part. If it is working properly it'll stay where you put it (mine is a twist throttle as well). If you want to sit in the middle there are tiller extensions you can buy. They clamp on and you can still adjust the throttle. Or make one if you prefer. What I'm getting at is don't let the throttle thing dissuade you, you can fix or work around whatever issue you're having. Also something to think about, try to have your rod holders near the rear. The closer they are to the front the easier it is for a dipsy (or something else with resistance) to pull you off course. Further back will lessen this effect.
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Not Seneca, but current conditions at the south end of Cayuga: http://www.cayugalake.cornell.edu/ Pretty much the same as the south end of Seneca and can be a help. Also has water temps. Note some of the wind speeds are in m/s which is roughly half the value of mph. 10 m/s = ~20 mph (22.4)