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Setting up a Fly
Finders Keepers replied to jigstick's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
Most of ours fall into either 18-24" or 32-36". There are other details to consider as well (Tom Allen has outlined some of these on his Facebook South Shore Reports page) including putting the fly behind an echip vs spin doc vs kingfisher vs metal dodger vs ..., lead length behind the rigger ball or dipsy, type and poundage of leader material, speed at depth, etc. These can all affect the pulsing and movement of the fly. -
We always look forward to this event because it has so many positive attributes, from the directors (Nick & Teresa) to all the volunteers to the captains to the community support to the very special guests the veterans - we feel honored to be a part of it all! Going into the event we were up in the air as to what our gameplan would be, especially if the winds kicked up earlier than forecast leaving us to fish the bay! So we brought a full arsenal for the lake and the bay! We were teamed up with Craig who was ready for the challenge and had no problems with facing Lake O and rising seas. So our plan was to see what the lake looked like when we came out of the shoot and either head straight out if it was already rough and play the inside waters, or if possible, shoot west and fish with the waves as they built throughout the morning. After following our escorts full throttle through the pierheads (that was an experience in itself) we were greeted with a stiff SW wind, but only a 1' chop over gentle swells from the west, so we motored west until we got to the other side of Hughes when we decided to point her north sideways to the building waves all the way out to 500 fow where we set down. As I was letting out the 3rd diver with the Salmon Slam Flasher/fly past 150 ft it began screaming out and we were hooked up! Craig battled the fish like a champ and brought the first 16 lb king to the net! We started setting up again and the port side 150 ft diver pulling a super UV Wonderbread Spin Doc/Shredded Glow Hammer fly gets nailed! Craig once again fought the king like a champ and we all had a good laugh when it came surfing the waves towards the boat! 17.5 lbs topping our first king! (See video here: ) We would continue a steady pick all morning going 6 for 7 (4 kings, a steelhead, and a coho) as we worked 500-600 fow and targeted the active fish in the top 60 fow, as we couldn't get anything deep to go. Once we made it back in front of Sodus, we doubled up while checking the wires and decided to call it a day since we already had 3 lines in the boat and the waves were pushing 6-10 ft. We were the only ones to catch a fish on the Salmon Slam rig, had the 3rd largest steelhead, and 10th largest king. But what mattered most was that we were able to provide Craig with an exciting, successful, fun trip! Thank you again Nick and Teresa for another fantastic Salmon Slam event!!
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Sodus 8/2
Finders Keepers replied to stevent's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Awesome! Love to see youngsters getting out and enjoying what Lake O has to offer! Nice job!! -
Nice job Nick!! We've seen more hits on the riggers lately with short 3-8' ft leads off the balls too. As per the dipsy question, depth will vary a bit depending on currents (upper, mid, and at lower levels), water density, etc. but we depth checked our wires several years back with a flasher/fly and it was pretty dead-on with a 3 to 1 ratio for a 1-setting and 5 to 1 ratio for a 3 setting, and we put them back as far as 650 ft and they were still getting deeper with the same ratio. Case in point with the currents altering the depths, with the currents we have had this year, a couple weeks back our 3-setting dipsies were hitting bottom 400 ft out (normally 80 ft down) in 120 fow going east and have no problems going into 80 fow heading west.
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Sodus ProAm Day 1
Finders Keepers replied to TOP SECRET's topic in Tournament Talk, Shows, Events & Seminars
It is too bad about the public bashing - it shows the true nature and demeanor of the people making those remarks. Teams just need to play by the rules and fish the division where they want to compete. At the end of the day it always comes down to who could put the best program and skills together to produce the best boxes. Some teams have more equipment at their disposal, but they still have to figure out the program for the day, and each day is different. Did we take a beating this weekend? Hell yeah we did!! Any team will tell ya they have had crappy weekends - this was ours! Between lost and broken equipment, our grandma's funeral, and some other personal issues hitting the fan it's a wonder we even made it out to fish... As others have stated, we love to tourney fish whether we place or not - seeing who did well, what they did differently (for future reference), going against the best on the lake, the shotgun starts... it's awesome!! -
fairhaven challenge 2015?
Finders Keepers replied to Sanitarium's topic in Tournament Talk, Shows, Events & Seminars
Haven't seen much posted about it yet. Werner is still running the event, we will be setting up the displays and running the scales again. Stopping in to Screwy Louie's would be your best bet for info or contact Werner. -
fairhaven challenge 2015?
Finders Keepers replied to Sanitarium's topic in Tournament Talk, Shows, Events & Seminars
Yes, it is scheduled for August 22nd. -
40 lb'ers were possible when eggs from the west coast were being used within the stocking programs as those kings tended to stay in the lake for an extra year as compared to the kings we have now. Those genes have since been lost so mid-upper 30's is likely the best we'll see now. I agree with the 30+ being a Tyee.
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Lookin for a few salmon at Sodus ProAm Sunday
Finders Keepers replied to muskybob's topic in Open Lake Discussion
Yeah, there should be plenty for you to take - ours will be available. -
You can also use them for fixed and free sliders on your rigger rods. Feel free to stop by our boat any time and we'll be more than happy to show you how they work and how to rig them, along with anything else you may have questions about. We'll be at Sodus all weekend slipped behind Captain Jack's Restaurant.
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We don't mind the "heat"... it's luke warm anyways! I would prefer not to use them (better hook sets as stated), but I would rather err on not losing rigs per my previous experience with not using them... And our hook sets are pretty good using them...
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Depends on your fishing style, equipment, etc. We use Okuma Dipsy rods that tend to be a little more stiff and are sometimes cranking up the speed over 3.0 requiring our drags to be tighter. The first time I tried not using a snubber it snapped the 50 lb fluoro... To each their own, but we use snubbers...
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1. We use 8' leaders of 50 lb fluoro for both spoons and F/F combos. Going down from the wire: swivel clip - dipsy - snubber - 8' fluoro leader - swivel clip - lure 2. We use 50 lb fluoro leaders on everything (but keep in mind we are a tournament team and we want to get the fish in the boat as quickly as possible). If you want more of a fight, then scale down to 20 lb test. 3. We use Scotty releases and clip it on just above the ball to the terminator clip. 4. Not sure as we use Humminbird. Maybe someone else can comment here. Hope that helps!
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We use Frabill F-Series rain suits (F3 and F4) and love 'em! Tried others previously and were disappointed, these keep you dry and warm all day! http://frabill.com/clothing/fseries-storm-gear.html?SID=1r1187r9vufpa0i22hhjn3i7c3
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For those of you who do not know already, I am a high school teacher in Wayne County currently teaching Earth Science and Meteorology courses. Over the years I have seen and helped several students develop their angling skills and who now own and operate their own boats. Piggybacking on this notion, I was just approved to develop a "Science & Techniques of Fishing" course and an "Outdoorsman Club" at our high school in an effort to spark more engagement at school and get more students involved with the outdoors. I already have the bulk of the curriculum outlined for the course, and I am now putting together resources and supplies to work with. So right now I have three requests that you may be able to help me out with: 1) I'm looking for any new or used gear (line, tackle, equipment, etc.) that could still be used today (operational, functional, etc.) that you would be willing to part with/donate to the school for me to use in class and/or outfit students with. This could include lures you know you won't use, extra spools of line, terminal tackle, pliers, line cutters, etc. 2) Any charter captains, guides, company reps, company owners, DEC officers, or anyone else with a vested interest in our fishery, I am looking for special guests to bring into the classroom. It could be to talk with the students what it's like to be a charter captain, or present new lures on the market, or discuss the effect of UV tapes and paints, or discuss how spoons are made and painted, or show the students how to tie flies, or whatever else you specialize in. This would be a great way to offer sponsors more exposure and make a connection with youth education! From all of the responses I receive, I will develop a master schedule for the 2016-17 school year with those who confirm dates with me. I will do my best to fit everyone in based on specialties and proper fit within the course, but cannot guarantee everyone's inclusion. 3) Suggestions for topics/subjects/items to be included in the curriculum. Here is the general outline of units and topics I have planned out thus far: A. Introduction (including the history of angling, angling professions, and advancements in technology) B. Basic Angling (including general differences in lines, reels, rods, bait, lures, etc., knots, hook sharpening, lure design/making/tying, storage solutions, live bait care and containment, protection from the elements, state regs, invasive species, and C&R efforts) C. Shore & Stream Fishing (including techniques for various species, and gear & tackle used) D. Ice Fishing (including species targeted, safety, gear, techniques, and electronics) E. Trolling (including waterway differences, techniques and gear used, electronics, variables when fishing, and lures) F. Fly Fishing (including gear used and techniques) G. Year End Tournament (held on the school's pond) If you would like to help in any of the requests above, please respond to this thread or drop me a PM and we can discuss the details. Due to the nature of new course development, I won't actually be teaching it until the fall of 2016, so there is quite a bit of time to talk things over and plan before the first time it is taught. I am very excited for this opportunity and look forward to developing and growing this program in the upcoming years! Thank you in advance for all those who support this developing program!!
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ASB had a good stock of FB strips last weekend - not sure what the status is now with the OOO tourney going on this weekend...