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If you missed out on your chance at a power auger or shelter in the early bird drawing, you can still get in for the 15 Days of Christmas Giveaway going on now through December 15th! Simply register for the Main Event or one of the new Online Classic Fish Donkey Events and you'll be entered - one entry per event entered. This year's event features several new sponsors, increased payouts, and the new online events that are species specific and done via cell phone app with the option for anglers to keep or release the fish! Check out all the details at: www.NYSwinterclassic.com
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The 2020 NYS Summer Classic Tournament will have a whole new feel with an additional event designed specifically for the Lake Ontario charter fleet and tourney boats in mind. Taking into consideration comments and suggestions from many charter captains and tourney teams last year, this new format will eliminate many of the gripes that have been expressed. The new format will allow for every fish taken aboard your boat to be eligible for entry regardless of who caught it - this means every charter you take out next summer from July 1st through August 31st could land you the winning catch! There will be no need for you to haggle your customers into entering - they will already be included and you can score some extra cash as a result too. This new format will also allow for catch and release - the fish do not have to be kept! The only snag right now is for those teams fishing in a non-communication event (pro-am's, open's and invitationals) as cell phones will be utilized for the 2020 SC Event, but we will be working on a fix for that this winter. How is this possible and is it a solid tourney platform? YES! Get all the details and join in the discussion for the event at the 2020 Greater Niagara Fishing & Outdoor Expo Saturday Evening January 18th at 6pm where we will unveil the tournament design, open the floor to inquiries, suggestions, general discussion about the event, what you would like to see for Grand Prize options and additional prizes, what to offer for entry options and what to set the entry fee(s) at - those in attendance will help set the stakes. If you are sponsored by companies not already involved with the Classic Events and would like to offer them additional exposure via sponsorship and/or via your participation - join the discussion and see what is possible through these events! Want a free entry? We will also be drawing from those in attendance for a free entry into the event (likely worth $250) - must be present to win! This is an invite for both charter captains and tourney teams to attend. Re-cap for the 2020 Summer Classic Event: *All customers on your charter are included: you are included, your mate is included, and anyone else fishing on your boat is included - it won't matter who catches the fish! *Runs from July 1st through August 31st, 24 hours every day - there's no cut-off times every day. *Ability for you to make some additional cash from your charters. *You can keep or release the fish. *Attend the tourney discussion seminar and have a voice in the final design of the event - one built by many anglers, for many anglers! I hope to see many of you at the seminar and throughout the rest of the Niagara Show!
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The Southern Tier Outdoor Show is this weekend (Sat 9-5, Sun 10-4). Get all the info at: http://www.southerntieroutdoorshow.com/ I'll have the new Plano Edge stowaway boxes on display to check out, Aqua-Vu cameras in the youth fishing pond, registrations for the 2020 NYS Winter Classic Fishing Tournament, free literature from my sponsors, and will be giving some seminars on fall fishing techniques for perch and walleye and offering demos of the Fillet Away Fish Mats! Stop on down and check it all out - youth anglers can score a free entry into the Winter Classic if they are one of the first 5 to catch a perch in the youth pond! STORE-Poster.pdf
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The 2020 NYS Winter Classic Tournament is ramping up as we approach the winter season! We're currently finalizing the sponsor line-up and special awards categories for the event this year - stay tuned for all the details and updates! Register early to get in on the early bird registration door prize drawings to score some new gear before the season starts: www.NYSwinterclassic.com
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So awesome to see the youth anglers getting involved - always one of the highlights for the Classic events! Final checks will be hitting the mail in the next couple days. Congrats to all the winners in this year's event including the five $2,000 Grand Prize winners!! Next year's event will feature a few changes that are sure to spark some interest and we'll have more cash on the line - stay tuned later this winter for all the details!
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The Summer Classic is underway! Get entered today to get in on the action alongside the LOC and other Lake Ontario events! Lots of cash to be given away this year thanks to our many sponsors for this summer's event!! Follow the event on Facebook for all the latest information and updates: https://www.facebook.com/NYSSummerClassic/ To register simply visit: www.NYSsumemrclassic.com Anglers can also register at most weigh-in locations. Keep in mind, if the lake is rough you can always hit the bay for some of the other species!! You can also enter the C&R Event for double the fun! Stay tuned for more announcements and updates throughout the summer!!
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New Cash Awards added (in addition to the general payout schedule) for the following: Main Event: $100 Cash Award - Largest Salmon Each Week (8 total)(Sponsored by Plano/Frabill) $500 Bonus Cash Award - 1st Place Salmon (Sponsored by Plano/Frabill) $400 Bonus Cash Award - 2nd Place Salmon (Sponsored by Plano/Frabill) $300 Bonus Cash Award - 3rd Place Salmon (Sponsored by Plano/Frabill) $100 Bonus Cash Award - 1st Place Walleye (Sponsored by Fillet Away) $100 Bonus Cash Award - 1st Place Yellow Perch (Sponsored by Fillet Away) $100 Bonus Cash Award - 1st Place Crappie (Sponsored by Fillet Away) $200 Bonus Cash Award - Largest fish caught on a Koyote Ugly Product (Sponsored by Koyote Ugly) Catch & Release Event: $250 Bonus Cash Award - 1st Place Largemouth Bass (Sponsored by Plano/Frabill) $250 Bonus Cash Award - 1st Place Smallmouth Bass (Sponsored by Plano/Frabill) $500 Cash Award - Overall Longest Muskey (w/ 250+ C&R anglers) PLUS Additional Prize Awards: (must be present at the awards ceremony Sept. 21st to win) (2) Frabill Power Catch Salmon Nets - Random draw from 4-10th place Salmon (2) Frabill Fish Weigh Bags w/ Mesh Inserts - 2nd Place Smallmouth & Largemouth Bass In an effort to boost payouts and make the event more attractive to current salmon and bass tournament anglers, we have packed the new sponsored funding into the prize structure as listed above. These along with the $10,000 Cash Grand Prize are all guaranteed to be awarded this year! Additional weigh-in stations are being added this year. More to come - stay tuned!!
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There's no belly aching here Vince, and I also think a lakewide cup should include both east and west end events. However, I would like to know how the cup is scored if my team (and many others who have wondered) are going to enter into the race. So I am asking, what is the scoring system by which this coveted cup is scored by? I also feel Matt does a great job orchestrating the Sodus Pro-Am, however with regards to the cup, I know of no other event whereby the players aren't privy 100% to how the competition is scored before they enter, and since registration is this Thu I am asking now...
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Dex - The Great Lakes Special Events Cups are scored on a similar system with extra points generated for larger fields and placing in the top-3. However they have it all laid out so there are no questions. The current Lake Ontario Challenge Cup scoring system is not. It would also be nice to see the point spreads before and after each event, as well as the full scoring system.
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Speaking with several teams in it last year (and some who were not), the "unique scoring system" was questioned without much resolve other than being told "it is a complicated scoring system based on number of variables", but it was never shared. I think this needs to be clarified, or better yet changed to a more simple scoring system like most other series events. I'm usually not one to complain and love to compete against the best on the lake, but it needs to be fair and clearly laid out for the competing teams. Last year we all thought we knew who the contenders were going into the Sodus event and then out of the blue another team (that didn't even weigh-in for one of the days in the Niagara Pro-Am and placed near last in that event) took the award leaving many unanswered questions and a sour taste for some teams since the scoring system was not disclosed from the start nor once questioned at the end. Based on the results last year I believe the weighting of some of the variables are unbalanced/incorrectly weighed and should be reviewed, otherwise go to a straight scoring system that is easy for everyone to understand and doesn't leave room for questionable results.
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As stated above, entrees in tourneys for the most part have seen a decline over the last few years, and not only trout and salmon either, it's across the board. To answer why that is for the Lake Ontario events I think involves many factors - many previous teams have broken up, cost of living has gone up, cost of this sport has gone up, the high water isn't helping matters this year, etc. - I know if I had a larger boat like a lot of the teams and had to travel across the lake to an event I would be very hesitant this year with the amount of large debris in the water. However, I think economics is the largest driving factor. While I agree with Rick that the amazing fishing we have seen the last few years may make anglers lazy (I wouldn't say dumb) you still have to pay attention to the details and adjust your strategy to target the larger fish or else end up in the middle of the pack. Plus there is always that element of luck whereby you happen upon a larger school of kings and get them to go. Consistency is what highlights skill in the tourney realm - those who consistently place in the Top-10 from season to season. The best way to become a better angler is to learn from your own and others mistakes, pay attention to details (no matter how small), and keep records to refer back to and to look over in preparation. Most of us have had a crushfest day while other struggled to get bit (or vice versa) even though your running the same stuff side by side - the difference is often in minute details like type or test of line, leader length, size of spoon, treble hooks versus single hooks, clip size, etc. etc. etc. Ask those that do well in an event what gave them the edge - most anglers realize that each day is different and will give you an honest answer. This past weekend we succeeded in waters where others struggled and it came down to several key details that we had dialed in the day before: spoon color and size (Carbon-14 & Defender, mags and Stingrays), rigger depth and separation (65 and 85), presentation (12 ft leads off the balls with fixed free sliders 12 ft above), down speed (2.4 early, 2.2 later), tracking of the bait/fish (progressed east), and most importantly the willingness to adjust these as the fish and water conditions changed based on previous experience (when the wind and waves picked up we lengthened the leads off the riggers to 25 ft).
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Walleye opener!!!!! Who going where?!
Finders Keepers replied to baitballin86's topic in Open Lake Discussion
Heading to Oneida for the season opener there! Can't wait to rip some raps and sonars!! -
**Attention to those just starting to fish the big lake and those who would like to learn a few new tricks of the trade** On June 8th the Finders Keepers Sportfishing Team will be at the Rochester Field & Stream store with our tournament boat on-site (weather pending) to offer insights on how to rig-up boats (tracks, rod holders, electronics, etc.), run various techniques (planer boards, downriggers, multiple wires on a side, run stackers, sliders, fixed sliders, etc.), and answer any questions you may have about trolling in Lake Ontario. We will have the latest gear on display from Okuma, Cannon, Humminbird, Plano, Frabill, and Aqua-Vu, plus sign-ups for the 2019 NYS Summer Classic Tournament. With the ability to do on-demand seminars tailored to your questions and inquiries, this will be a great opportunity to take advantage of! While not confirmed yet, we are also hoping to have additional boats and professionals on-site to answer questions and inquiries regarding other fishing realms such as bass fishing, walleye fishing, and those who target the Finger Lakes. I'll post updates as the event comes together - if there is anything you would like to see in particular, drop a comment on this thread!
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**Buyer Beware** We dealt with them several years ago and gave over $15,000 in used gear to them to sell on consignment where we agreed on a 50/50 split for what it sold for (Shimano Tekota reels, Penn reels, Great Lakes rods, Cannon probe systems and manual downriggers, Furhman Sounder, boxes upon boxes of lures) - never saw a penny and was told it all sold but they didn't make anything from it??? How can there be no profit when it was given to them?? That was the last time I stepped foot in the place and started hearing all the stories...
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This summer the statewide NYS Summer Classic Fishing Tournament is sporting some new changes this summer including a guaranteed $10,000 cash grand prize (sponsored by Batavia Downs), more incentives and cash awards, higher payouts, and a new Catch & Release event to run alongside the main event that will allow anglers fishing all of the current Bass/Carp/Catfish/Pike C&R tournament events to cash in double! Here is the breakdown of species for each event: Main Event Fish Categories: Salmon, Lake Trout, Walleye, Rock Bass, Crappie, Yellow Perch, Panfish (Sunfish/Bluegill) C&R Event Fish Species: Largemouth Bass, Smallmouth Bass, Carp, Catfish, Northern Pike Each event will have its own separate pool of money and associated payout, however all 1st place anglers will have a 1-in-12 shot at the $10,000 cash grand prize - random drawing done LIVE at the awards ceremony on Sept. 21st. All Top-3 angler in the main event will be required to attend the awards ceremony with their fish, and will be housed overnight at the casino as part of their awards package. All 1st Place C&R anglers will be required to attend the awards ceremony to secure their chance at the $10,000, and will also be housed overnight at the casino as part of their awards package. Each event will have its own registration, the main event can be entered online (http://www.nysiceproam.com/SummerClassic/Registration-2.html) or at most weigh-in locations, while the C&R event can only be entered online via the FishDonkey website/app: https://tourney.fishdonkey.com/#/tournament/568/details The main event will place fish according to weight at one of the official NYS Classic weigh-ins, while the C&R event will be done via length and submitted using the FishDonkey App (anglers must have a cell phone capable of taking both pictures and video to participate). Anglers may enter both events - registration in each is required. In addition to the weigh-in network, anglers will also be able to weigh-in fish at the following tournament events: Sunset Bay Walleye Shootout (Walleye Only - main event scales) Fat Nancy's BFF (All Species - see Director Tim Thomas for mobile scales) Oswego Pro-Am (All Species - see Director Tim Thomas for mobile scales) Capt. Jack's BFF (All Species - see Director Tim Thomas for mobile scales) Sodus Pro-Am (All Species - see Director Tim Thomas for mobile scales) Atommik Invitational BFF (All Species - see Director Tim Thomas for mobile scales) Atommik Invitational (All Species - see Director Tim Thomas for mobile scales) Fair Haven Challenge (All Species - see Director Tim Thomas for mobile scales) There will also be additional cash awards available including: $200 Cash Award - Overall Largest Drum/Sheepshead (Main Event Only) $200 Cash Award - Overall Largest Brown Trout (Main Event Only) $200 Cash Award - Overall Largest Bowfin/Dogfish (Main Event Only) $200 Cash Award - Overall Largest Pickerel (Main Event Only, 500 angler participation) $200 Cash Award - Overall Longest Muskey (C&R Event Only, 250 angler participation) $250 Cash Award - Overall Largest King caught by a LOTSA Member $500 Cash Award - Overall Largest Accumulated Weight of Gobies (Main Event Only, 750 angler participation) $1,000 Monthly Overall Largest Fish - (Main Event Only, 500 angler participation, increments) Weekly Cash Awards - Largest Fish Every Week for Every Fish Category (Both Events, 1,000 angler participation combined) The events will culminate with a formal awards ceremony at the Batavia Downs Casino Resort on September 21st, where the Fall Classic Sportsman Show will also be taking place that day. Follow the event on Facebook for all of the latest news, announcements, and updates: https://www.facebook.com/NYSSummerClassic/ Current sponsor backing includes: Batavia Downs, Savage Gear, Okuma, Fillet Away Fish Mats, Fish Fighter Products, Koyote Ugly Products, Frabill, Plano, Oakley, Automatic Fisherman, Nautic Sport, Clingerman Taxidermy, Church Tackle Co., GMSS, Celox, Atommik, Field & Stream, Bass Pro Shops, FishUSA, Makiplastic, Soco Baits, BHammer Tackle, Diabolical, Lake Ontario United, Vital Signs, LCTV, LOTSA, and Factory Direct Trailers.
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The Fairport Fishing Club is having their annual Guide Day event at the Rochester Field & Stream store this Saturday from 9am-4pm. Local charter and guide services will be there as well as several company reps. Stop on out and let's talk about the upcoming fishing season!! I'll have several ADDICTED fishing hats with me - stop out and tell me how you are addicted to fishing and you could score one!!
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Kingfest 2019 - Who's Ready??
Finders Keepers replied to Finders Keepers's topic in Open Lake Discussion
Agreed on the rubber band getting wound into the reel if it isn't removed, but the practice is very effective and used by many seasoned anglers. We tend to use them almost all the time to help get a better initial hookset while using a lighter drag for once the band breaks and they take off. For charters and inexperienced anglers I probably would not use them, or make sure I got the rod first to remove it... -
Kingfest 2019 - Who's Ready??
Finders Keepers replied to Finders Keepers's topic in Open Lake Discussion
For the invitational the gentleman in the passenger seat was our observer, and while he was looking green, I don't believe he got sick while we were out there. If I remember right, the waves were on the order of 4-8's with an occasional big'un like the one soon after we land the first fish in the video! Tip for fishing in rough conditions with dipseys if you didn't catch it the first time watching the video: use a rubber band making a half-hitch on the wire and looping it around the handle on the reel. This helps allow the wire to flex a little with the rod as it sways in the waves and keeps the drags from creeping out. When a fish hits (if it doesn't slice the rubber band off initially) simply grab the rubber band and slide it up the wire to slice it off. -
The NYS Winter Classic Awards Ceremony and NYS Spring Classic Sportsman Show are this Sat at Batavia Downs! Get all the info at: http://www.nyswinterclassic.com/2019/sportsmanshow.html The show will be packed with deals, new gear releases, new concepts presented in seminars, giveaways, and much more! Show runs from 10am-3pm. See you there!!