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Couldn't agree more!!! Awesome place, however Kevin's rooms were booked, we found another very nice place to stay and they had rooms left, newly renovated from what we were told. Sounded real nice, if anyone needs a place might be a good bet. Fish freezers, cable TV and such http://www.lakeviewmotelandcottage.com/ ... tario.html 716-791-8668

The boat is sitting at TK's right now, guess they just buffed her out, I will see what I can do, I will need to get a hold of TK, stay tuned. Tom

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Ontario Canada has a very big short water early Spring King Fishery, I only know what little I have heard, but one favorite bait of theirs is a reef runner, I also here they beef up the hooks and run em off their boards. Transition for us in the Eastern Basin however is the fact that our kings get rather deep rather early in the season, and I am not so sure they run these baits other than in the top 10 to 25 ft? Tom

Congrats !!!!!!!!! Nicely done !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great Job !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks Jim !! You guys did great last season, we constantly heard your successes from running our copper. Great job to Jim (Ace), Big Fin Gene and Gene, The Screamer boys, Cold Steel, Hat Trick, Sea Devil, etc etc !!! It was nice how all you guys dialed this stuff right in and the new ideas put into place from this old art. Slippery Sinker in Olcott will have our .037 45# 7 Strand copper in 2, 3, 4, 5, and 600' sections as of Thursday April 26 if interested. Wes picked up an adequate amount to get things started for this area. If anyone else is interested and does not prefer the added costs of shipping from online sales please advise. We will see that your favorite shop gets some copper if they don't already supply it in .037 45#. [email protected] About 7 shops from Sodus to Pulaski already stock it as well Thanks, Tom

I'll be there for both Pro/Ams but they miss your dates. I would be happy to see to it that Kevin Jerge in Wilson Marina or Slippery Sinker have some copper for your purchase though, or any other shop you may frequent as well, just let me know where you want me to get it. I would much rather work it this way anyhow. As hard as it is I try not to be a walking tackle shop upon my presence to different towns during events and such out of respect for the many shops that stock many dollars worth of our goods. On another note if you know exactly what you want I will be sure to have the shop you choose also hold what you need in case they may sell out. drop me an E Mail [email protected] Tom

Never personally witnessed that application but have heard some have used rubber bands without problem, would strongly recommend not using any type release on the copper itself, even a rubber band seems like it would stress the copper but I have heard it does work? Maybe that is why I sold so much copper last season, lol. I will have to try that this season to get some first hand knowledge. I have witnessed a 300' section with a yard of 65# PP knotted in every 100 ft, this leaving an attachment point for your release off your big board every 100 ft or an area to attach your small board. Seems to me all these connection points would certainly leave room for error. Another issue may be the weight of the copper from rod tip to release or to your small board, would have to guess you would need to shorten up your stretch to the board utilizing any of these methods, a sagging length of copper would become cumbersome I would think. However like I said I do know a few who do this with rubberbands off a release, one being a good customer (hence) from last season, lol Jimmy Samia, not sure if he is in here or not to chyme in?

From what little I know about G Fly copper some of their product that I have seen that they call 45# actually measures .028 or .029 ?", this according to the G-Fly label, about the same as most others 30# copper. My guess would be it would compare to 27 lb leadcore, 4 to 5 ft or so for every 10 yds. I would figure 12 to 15 ft for every 100 ft of length. In the illustration attached where I have G Fly copper marked 30# it was actually what they call 45# Click to make larger

We use many different combo's, one favorite purchase of mine was a Telora/Tekota I purchased off Tim Dawidiuk, 800 Tekota and 8'6" Telora leadcore rod. Seems a bit stiff in the butt compared to what I have always been use to but works great. Also have experience with several 9 ft med weight custom blanks (maybe Loomis or St Croix not sure, for a 350 and 400 section, these are nice due to the rather elongated arch as to be able to run out say just 300 or so with the 400' section, the bend in the rod doesn't leave any abrupt pivot point, just a nice fluid arch. Nice for an extra rod ran off a port/starboard diver rod holder (set at about 15 degrees out to the side) this over the top of another wire diver. We have also used 9' Ugly sticks for board rods, some with twillys and some without, you do not need them. Many rods will work, have heard all good things from Ernie's creations as well. Just get something with some backbone below the ferrule, and something with some flex in the tip section, once you have a full season under your belt you get to learn pretty fast what works best, they produce so well. A great tip while fighting fish is to leave the rod right in a rear rod holder and crank em in, until your about 60 to 80 ft behind the boat, saves on the fore-arms, lol, they will beat you up Penn's 345 GTI is all I know of that will hold the 5 and 600 sections of .037, we run as much as 400' with 500' of 30# Fireline backing on the Tekota 800's, 300 is perfect with 350 yds of 50 PP. There are a few Oswego guys who have dialed this stuff right in like team Screamer, they actually mark every 100 ft with shrink tubing for exact depths. I am not sure what a 57 Diawa will hold, I know a 47 will hold a 150' section with 300' of 20 lb test mono. We have been spooled on that combo as well, lol, Ernie was laughing at me one day last spring as he watched me spooling it up, he laughed and said where ya going with that? He was right, but we have landed many with it, even used it as a SWR and had it fire for us. I could be wrong but I only know of the Penn for the 5 and 600 sections, a Tekota 800 for up to 400', this for our .037 Tom

Any of many backings will work, one popular option is a 50# moss green Power Pro / braid. I know guys who use 25 lb test mono's also, we have used other braids from 20 to 65 as well as mono's, the braids seem to last longer, its a pretty easy application. 200 to 300 yds of backing gives me piece of mind after the expenditure of the copper and rod/reel set-up and everything involved. Tom

I would give the otter boats another vote, we use them exclusively for our copper rigs since we do not fish anything but Salmon, never a problem, we will run 2 copper sections off one side at times with the otter boats and they are way off to the side of the boat compared to the little boards which tend to run back of the boat.

A-TOM-MIK also now sells copper 100 to 600 ft sections bulk spools of 2000 ft marked every 100ft as well .037 45# We purchase from the same mill as Ernie, same exact copper. I couldn't agree more Ernie is one of the copper guru's, Ernie also sells Howie Copper which is a bit different, same size/lb but different lay. Being a novice with only 1 season under my belt running copper I have fished both and do not notice any difference in the world. Copper has pretty much taken over lead lines in Oswego from the guys that I know, still used but not favored over coppers effectiveness to pull the deep fish (over 60 to 120 ft down), the stuff rules, not the easiest way nor the cheapest way to take Kings and not the most preferred over other methods like mainline/spoon combination, but come tourney time we have the stuff in the water pretty much 100% of the time, it will produce for you that well. Some of the reasons we added copper to our line-up for 2007 was due to the many requests from our normal patrons as well as our staffers; and also the lack of availability and or ease of acquiring it at any of the many shops in our Eastern Basin and in town here in Oswego, we just added copper to 5 shops in the last 2 weeks and have already had to restock 3 of them. The word is out that copper pulls fish when things have slowed and also in general over many other applications. Try it, it'll work for you. Tom

:shock: Nice Job!!!!

LMAO LEAVE IT UP TO YOU SKEINER

87' to 91' worked at the Oswego Salmon Shop 82 hrs/week. 91' to 99' worked the back of many charter boats 100+ trips a year from Oswego to Port Bay. 99' to 02' drove CDL-A hauling bait fish from Arkansas to Sterling NY. Also have manufactured spawn for several dozen tackle shops from 87' to present at the tune of approx. 20,000/dz. season. and 02' to present, well you prolly already know Guess you could say I'm a fish bum

For those who don't know that is Scotty aka. Hammer, Scotty is the man that picked the Hammer fly to be a winner, with more help from Bob Songin and Bob Stevens the original pick was a good one. Without that initial nod the Hammer Fly would be sitting in a box somewhere like many other patterns that just never got an honest shake. That fish he is holding happen to come on meat however (I believe) and was worth 1500 Canadian bones, Scotty is known for hauling in the hogs. No stranger to finding a way to catch a King bigger than the next guy so often and also cashing in many 1st's in Oshawa Ontario LO events !!! Congrats my friend and thanks again for the help in popularity of our product throughout Ontario and Quebec!! I will always be indebted to you!! Tom

Is that Jerry?? Scoping out the competition??

You were just as well not to see that rally close up, was just bust'n You did hit the nail right on the head as I quote you, "Thats what makes these touney's #1"......... Keeping that feeling alive I guess is the next step we all must take. We as a team (Cold Steel) get pumped, I feel the tension increase during talks in the months ahead even and of course during pre-fish and such, as I am sure everyone does. It just takes from the pump when things seem to be changing out from under our feet. First reaction is usually worst. Anyhow you know you can take the feelings from the "tent talks" between yourself, Tom and Vince (and many) to the bank concerning passion for the competitive side of each and everyone of us. As info is shared before and after tourney time amongst everyone, wether lies or truths there's no denying the intensity. Wayne County 06' as the final weigh-ins were made I was talking with Vince, he was noting just what you just typed on strikes generated compared to landing percentage making or breaking us all, I think he had 5 Kings on day 2, we generated 5 strikes as well all day on the same fly program you also mentioned, we were fortunate enough to scoop each one. What measures our intensity level is how we can remember some of these close finishes or simple good times so well. Final structure for Wayne, Fishin Magician 325.78, Thrillseeker 297.95, Cold Steel 289.61, Rebel Charters 274.40. Cup standings 1) Thrillseeker, 2) Rebel Charters, 3) Maui-Jim Fishing, 4) Cold Steel, guess we do like to mix it up at times now don't we! Dam I agree with Yankee, Jerry has us all pegged !!! !!!NO COMMUNICATION !!! Tom

ROFLMAO guess you never really know who is watching you a little closer than you think, (I thought we were the only ones glassen the competition) and why open communication when you can find this kind of hard facts about someone keeping your mouth shut like we have in the Oswego events through the years, with info like this Open Communication will be scary. Jerry? Let me ask you this, what do you really think about the Cold Steel Naked Rally?? LMAO again, hope you didn't enjoy it too much. (Then again you watched it for 7 hours, 2 days no less) scary again!! Anyway, you get an A+ for your effort. No wonder why your always cashing !! Tom

Hit or Miss: Could not agree with you more !!! The Cold Steel will spend ample dollars to compete, I couldn't even tell you what the final bill is per event cause I do not know, it does not matter!! Some extra coin is nice, we all will admit, but most I know will happily continue to feed that expenditure to continue to compete for Prestige !!! I have felt bad since my initial post due to the fact I should get off my ass and make my feelings known, I have no excuse not to get out there and get to some meetings and make a stand, Paul is right, it is easy to sit here and complain behind the keyboard. It's about the pristige to the serious, it's about the coin to those who choose to bend the rules.

Open Communication Blows !!!!!!!!!! Last word I received from some of the Team Cold Steel/A-TOM-MIK is we may not even fish the Pro/Am's this year. Not entirely due to the communication rule but due to other reasons as well. I think the vote on another thread concerning communication was 34 to 6 in favor of no communication. Even thought this may be a small cross section of anglers opinions it still speaks of a majority liking, am I wrong? The new communicatrion rule stinks in my opinion, doing it on your own shows more skill, open communication boils down to who is blowing who, who sucks more input outa the next guy, etc. ect. No need to do so much pre-fishing, no need to worry so much about where we will be going, what we will be running, lets just wait to see how team such and such does and we will feed off that. Would have much rather fished them with no communication if we do continue to even do so. Tom

Skeiner, they ran back home here in the Eastern Basin, lol

Just received the latest Fish Doctor Newsletter and was happy to see a prediction of some larger kings in the future even than this past season of 06'. Due to the size and abundance of bait this is good info to look forward to as well as increased numbers of Kings in the future due to natural reproduction (we all certainly hope, time will tell on the NR issue). Definatley no room to complain after the seasons of 04', 05', and 06' with numbers or size from Eastern Basin takes, but to see a few more of these in the days or years ahead would just ice the cake even better !!!!! Roland Poulin with a 40+ from 2002