got to meet some fellow LOU.members and got my arse handed to me by the fish..justin and kevin both skunked me on their way of a great limit of eyes..things where so poor for me i evened used 1 of kevins set ups using the exact same lure and with the same negative results.for me..anywho..eyes where biting most of the nite on stickbaits and both guys provided laughs and encouragement..on a down side..equipment failure suxxs..would love to do it again when the KEY starts the engine of justins fishing machine....and so long 4 now.john