i used pp and wire on lake o. with good results for fleas ,but i had twillies and they would cut right off ....But the seneca fleas were a little more problem with pp but doable..dypsys are a great way to put meat on the deck,but i would prefer a rigger bite as i can(could i sold boat) run light tackle and enjoy the fight .after 20 plus years trolling i would say the 3 "S's" are the most important for a good catching...Speed ,Speed, Speed...many here could spend hours telling ya what time of day,temp of water, time of year,water color,depth of lure,sunny day ,cloudy day,species, effects the color of lure will work best. BUT a great lure for the right condition will produce very little if it is ran to fast or slow...