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This should be gone by this afternoon. I guess it was a popular item! Too bad nobody wants a couple of the other things I put on here a month or so ago lol. Just taking up space... My wife found what looks to be a new Loadstar ST205 75R14 tire and white rim in our front yard yesterday. No idea how it got there, but maybe it bounced off a truck? My Lund takes an ST215, so I have no use for it. I can't guarantee it's new, but it looks to be in great shape with zero rust on the rims and tire nibs on the rubber from the molding process. First one to grab it, it's theirs

Joe Morelle and I have become pen pals lately. Even if you support budget reductions in general, it's important to make your voice heard . Otherwise, you're at the mercy of the politician's priorities, and we know those don't always reflect those of the taxpayer.

It sounds like they are doing important work, but not as effectively as could be, and that there may be evolving mechanisms to improve the process that could be explored. I bet we can all get behind that!! Meliora!

Great idea!! With an app, they could survey a broader area. They’d have to calculate participation somehow. Back when I worked fisheries for Cornell in the ADK, I know they made us do stuff on the same day and place as previous years so they could compare with historical records. Maybe that’s why the guys are there? Agree it seems nonsensical at face value, but there’s likely some rationale, weak though it may be

Thank you for clarifying that for me lol. I think that if you don't argue both sides at times, then you are the extreme. Respectfully. And you don't tell somebody to shut the **** up respectfully. You are a googan. Chad, could you shut this down now?

Who cares? FYI, Republican here. Let's get back to talking about how (or whether) to support our fisheries.

My point is simply that we can choose where to cut back. If you oppose a thoughtful reduction in spending and don't want to argue for your priorities, then you put everything in the hands of the government to decide what gets cut and what doesn't. Do you trust them? Remember, the "other side" is going to be in power sooner or later. Fight for what you believe in. If you believe that fisheries science represents an appropriate place to save money, then so be it. I favor other mechanisms, but no need to bore anyone with details in this thread, which should remain focused on our fishery and decisions that impact it.

Fiscal responsibility is absolutely necessary, in government as in life. But just like I wouldn't burn my house down to save on the mortgage, a measured approach will lead to greater savings in the long run. We are not the first country to have this issue. There are examples of what works, and what doesn't. Always learning or never learning. Regardless, everyone should fight for what they believe in. Unless you are willingly donating your salary to the government, then you believe that you deserve to see the labors of your effort. I want to see my efforts in the form of taxes go toward things that I believe in. And if I lose, then I lose. That's the way the system works. But I'm still going to fight the battle. Honestly, I'm not sure this is a liberal-conservative thing. I'm conservative, but I'm still going to support our local fisheries research projects and personnel. I'm also going support a measured approach to fiscal prudence. I want some assurances that the juice will be worth the squeeze.

Most people I know don't work two jobs at 15 dollars an hour, since that's below minimum wage, but okay. And we inherited some money when my wife's father died. Thank you for noticing. Please don't make assumptions, and leave off with the personal stuff. This is a discussion on outdoor relevant decisions - and nobody is getting rich working fisheries. That's my point. Nuff said.

Yeah, Brian, sorry your girls lost lol!!! Does this qualify as $hit talking? I just couldn't help myself...now, back to our regularly scheduled program.

Uh, huh... Because research is soooo lucrative. Speaking from experience, folks don't do this sort of thing to get rich. I made $11,500 as a graduate student for five years, which DOUBLED to $22K when I became a postdoc. And there went ten years of my life. That's some gravy, eh? I'm guessing that the top end in fisheries sciences is way less than in biomedical research, too. These guys absolutely bring it, and we get more juice for the squeeze than we probably deserve. And cutting their funding is a drop in the bucket. It's focusing on pennies when we need thousands. The fiscal argument doesn't hold up. You don't cut your most effective employees just to save money. This is simply bad business (to speak in DJT terms).