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I've built 8-10 rods a year for the past decade, no expert by any means, but enough to echo what's been said above. You won't save money trying to build your own. What you will do is get a rod that's set up exactly how you want. Particularly with bass and walleye rods, where the permutations are infinite. If you're around Rochester and want to get a better sense of the game, give me a shout. I'm happy to show you the ropes. The downside is that it's tough to figure out the exact characteristics of any blank based on a description, as all manufacturers use their own systems, and a 2 power walleye rod is very different from a 2 power saltwater blank. Even trolling blanks can be a bear. Don't make the mistake of confusing saltwater trolling blanks with Great Lakes. Frankly, I agree 100% that there are lots of good factory rods out there at decent prices, and blank-wise you're looking at an e-glass or composite blank anyway, where sensitivity doesn't matter - it just needs to be able to withstand constant torque. That having been said, I've stripped and re-wrapped new guides on some of my older Daiwa brown trout rods that I loved back in the day, and they're shiny again. It's a great place to start without breaking the bank.
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If you get out tomorrow, you're welcome to grab the head unit off our boat and swap it for yours. At least that will tell you whether it's the display or not.
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Quit fishing at 10:30.
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Sandy afternoon with Coyote K
Gator replied to HB2's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Sandy afternoon with Coyote K
Gator replied to HB2's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
We had precisely the same thing happen earlier this year. Luckily, I'd traded a custom rod to Misdemeanor for a spare probe, and we were right back in the game. Still, that's too many subtroll probes donated to the goddess Lady O (three or four in fifteen years). No more. My wife bought me a new X4D for my birthday next week, so the coated cable will go bye-bye. And that should make it easier to see issues with the wire. I hope. -
We didn't make it out, so no report.
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Six Rod Set-Up....Go
Gator replied to SmilinEd1's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Roger that! Nothing better than figuring it out for yourself, and it sounds like you know what you're about. Charters are great for newbies, but as you note, subject to M. Nature. Good luck! And a word of caution - if anyone on here asks you to go buffy fishing, just say no. -
Six Rod Set-Up....Go
Gator replied to SmilinEd1's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Lots will depend on the particular conditions that day - upwelling could change what the fish demand. In general, if you are used to running divers, then a high-low setup with two per side on wire line is an easy and effective setup, combined with two riggers. Heavy current may impact whether you really want to run that second set of divers though. There's always the possibility of stacking the riggers, and this time of year you can find fish throughout the water column, so it makes some sense. Running copper or leadcore off the boards together with divers can be challenging (the dreaded wire-copper tangle), but is undoubtedly effective - but if the temperature is deep, 400 and 500 coppers require some big boards. Reels for rigger rods - size 20 or 30 Daiwa or Convector 45 (which you seem to have), with 25 lb test line and a fluorocarbon leader attached via a high quality microswivel. There are many options that will work. The best way to learn is to go out with someone who knows what they are doing. If you are only going to fish one day later this month, why not charter? Just a suggestion. If you already have the setups and know what you're doing, then good luck and go get 'em! -
Tommy and I are going to give it a go for the first few hours on Wednesday, too. We will be further West than you and staying on the inside as well.
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Great job, Les! We also ran offshore on Sunday morning, to a less enthusiastic audience. The washing machine of rollers from the NW and caps from the SW didn't help. I suspect that we should have kept going, as we dropped in at the 27 line and fished North for four hours, ending up just beyond the 30. It was a long, bouncy ride back, but Wellcraft did it right when they designed our boat, and we made 25 mph into a 3 foot chop. We ended 4/6, with three small salmon and a steelhead.
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Sandy Cr. 8/6
Gator replied to Ric66's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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We come up with inventive ways to swear at the fish. This is a family forum, so I won't go into detail. And for some reason, we started saying, "Jewel crank bobo shaft" twenty years ago when all seemed lost - it always worked, 70% of the time.
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I prefer smoked with a bit of dill and horseradish.
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for sale : usa Rigger weights-torpedos and more
Gator replied to TROUTMAN 87's topic in Classifieds - Buy, Sell, Trade or Rent
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Reviews Millennium Spyder-Lok Rod Tree?
Gator replied to Fly n Fish's topic in Tackle and Techniques
Millennium Marine is a new division of Millennium Outdoors, and I can attest to the quality of their ladder stands. They are the best, bar none. I would anticipate that the same is true here - but a first hand account would be great. -
Sold / Closed Trolling Gear for Sale
Gator replied to SenecaGeneva's topic in Classifieds - Buy, Sell, Trade or Rent
I bet he's in Geneva, at the North end of Seneca Lake, based on his name lol -
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Sandy 8/1/20
Gator replied to Double-D's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Subtroll attaching to dr ball
Gator replied to nijajordan's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
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Derby fishing by yourself
Gator replied to [email protected]'s topic in Tournament Talk, Shows, Events & Seminars
Brian, I agree that it is safer to have multiples on board, but with all due respect, we are talking about grown men and women. I guess as a derby organizer, you might have to worry about liability if you promoted lone wolfs (although there are plenty of kayak fishing derbies), but from the perspective of personal responsibility - you are only (directly) putting yourself in harm's way, and I think folks should be given credit for being able to make their own decisions. From the perspective of rule management, multiples simply means that everyone has to have their story straight. Cheaters are gonna cheat. End of the day though, the derby owner makes the rules, arbitrary or rational. -
for sale : usa Rigger weights-torpedos and more
Gator replied to TROUTMAN 87's topic in Classifieds - Buy, Sell, Trade or Rent
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Anybody at Sandy today? 7/25
Gator replied to PhlyanPan's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Well over a dozen hits in the first two hours, then three spread across the next six. Like a light switch.