Paul Czarnecki

They are both good john. Don't be afraid to put a blue or green coho fly behind either of them and you can run them pretty quick. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

Any of the spoons mentioned will work off shallow riggers but we like to run our Bay Rat sticks in the spring. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

ASB in Newfane is now carrying Bay Rats. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

Nah.......don't worry about that. I'm a fish at the poker table too. 😜😉 Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

Here's a late fall brown out of Oak Orchard all colored up for spawning. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

Bay rat has several orange patterns. Orange tiger and coho crusher are two of the better ones. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

Out of Oak Orchard we run more shorts than anything. Oddly enough, on the east end, out of Oswego, Greg Gehrig (Top Gun) found the long shallow 4" sticks to be better. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

I had a lot of pics I could have used Jimmy. But fish please no in January is just mean! You guys are welcome to stop by the boat this April and I'll show you exactly what I'm running. They are now being carried by Narbys at the Oak and Fat Nancys on the east end. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

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They are like crack to Browns. The bigger models are like crack to walleyes. I ran them early last year on kings and could not find an issue like with other stick baits. They come out of the package tuned and ready to rock!!! Their colors are second to none! Yes, I'm biased and yes I pro staff for them! 😃 Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

I love Rich's paint work. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

Yep---they make the worlds largest diving plug and I HATE when that happens. The key to it NOT happening is to keep the rod tip as low as possible-especially as the board gets close. In your case, with the board 10' away putting the rod in a holder was the LAST thing you want to do. Much better to reel it another 6 feet and lift the board out of the water. If a board does dive on you the ONLY way to get it to come up is to free spool the reel. I've done this many times with a ticked off King on the other end and still boated the fish. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

You guys REALLY should have made it to the LOTSA show last month. Greg from blood run had his 44's there with the modifications. I have never had an issue running them but I know some have. The new modification eliminate any possibility of ANYONE having an issue. You're really missing out not running inlines but there's been enough arguing on that subject already. 😄 Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

X 2 The short shallow Bay Rat might run "slightly" deeper than a Jr. but, as Matt said, you can run them in the same spread with no issues. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

I ran Bay Rats for the first time last year--field testing some prototypes. They all had rattles and we had a tremendous couple of days on Browns. That said, one of my favorite brown trout baits of all time, a J9 rapala in black and silver, never had rattles. I don't think it matters either way. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

I'm actually not that far away guys. My boat is in Pt Breeze and I'm there from April thru September. I have a LOT of clients from rochester and eastward. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

You're right Chris. As I said the spin doctor can only rotate as much as the design of the flasher will allow it to. A longer leader allows that spin doctor to cover a wider swath of water while maintaining its rotation. When you add a 6' meat rig leader to that spin doctor the water covered increases yet again. I used the dodger comparison to illustrate how a longer lead can affect the action of a bait--not how wide a skinnier can rotate. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

Bust out the popcorn...... Longer leader lengths, on anything, will "slow" the action of that bait down. Shorter leaders will "speed up" the action or erratic movement. As Mark pointed out at LOTSA a longer diver leader will allow for more, albeit slower, spin doctor action. The rotation of said spin doctor can only increase to a point---that point being the maximum rotation allowed by the design of the flasher. A longer leader allows for more lateral movement on a flasher setup as well. When running meat on a long leader, which is what Mark was illustrating, there is MUCH more overall action imparted to the entire setup than with a shorter leader. If you need "proof" of what I'm saying put a dodger and fly on an 8' lead at 2.5. Then put the same setup on a 30' lead at the same speed. The 30' lead will maintain the nice lazy flip a dodger is supposed to have while the 8' lead will be spinning. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United