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Remembrance for a great friend
Missdemeanor replied to brucehookedup's topic in Open Lake Discussion
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Remembrance for a great friend
Missdemeanor replied to brucehookedup's topic in Open Lake Discussion
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Remembrance for a great friend
Missdemeanor replied to brucehookedup's topic in Open Lake Discussion
Today the Rochester Fleet said goodbye to Captain Joe Toomey. It was a sight to see 20 rigs rolling out of the Genny under Sheriff's office escort. I want to thank everyone who came out and thank you to the Monroe County Sheriff's office. The day was perfect and I think we got Joe's Attention...Thanks for the pics Jeremy Goodison! ...... Matt ( MissDemeanor) Fair winds and following seas Thunder!!! Sent from my VS996 using Lake Ontario United mobile app -
Remembrance for a great friend
Missdemeanor replied to brucehookedup's topic in Open Lake Discussion
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Remembrance for a great friend
Missdemeanor replied to brucehookedup's topic in Open Lake Discussion
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Well my theory is I run them 10-20 ft behind the ball... Closer to the boat, more action they get... If you were inclined to run other brands of spoons with optimizers, you could run them on divers, or junk lines... Farther from the boat at faster speeds the slower the action is... Optimizers are very similar to old school NKs. They have awesome action in rolling conditions... If you look at those pictures, that day we pounded steelhead it was blowing 20-25 out of the South... We were offshore and it was sloppy... Had to troll with them....pick the gear up...run back into the waves , then set up and troll with em... Sustained 4fts with a 6 every couple minutes... Just some hints about changing things up and thinking outside the box.... Sent from my VS996 using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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Fish... Tamiron was Jim's site... optimizers and Honeybees ( also a great steelhead spoon) . Jim sold the Optimizer spoon business to Stan Kulak of Shasta California. Stan owns Trinidad tackle. It's funny how these staples of Lake Ontario fishing that I used to use back in the 80s still produce even after all the changes the lake has had. Will other spoons work?Absolutely, but having some of these speed demons can add just a little different spin on your spread. Especially in the near future when the lake transition starts and we are offshore targeting buckeyes. Sent from my VS996 using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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Optimizers work best 3.0+ mph... I run Mostly the #3 size. Kings chomp them nicely in the spring. Out offshore last year, there was some very green water. I threw out some variation of black silvers and the steelhead chewed em up.. I'm a spoon guy... I have confidence with spoons. If I have optimizers out... I put them on all my riggers.. 3.0-3.4 mph is faster than most people normally troll, but you can cover some distance to find active fish. Sent from my VS996 using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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Optimizer spoons were initially made in Rochester by Jim Martino. Optimizer was purchased a few years by by Trinidad Tackle out of California. Many old timers remember how great these spoons were at higher speeds and you can cover some water plus they are great in rough water. Over the last few years I've been giving them some playing time. The fish see the same spoons trolled by them day after day, so I've been going a bit different. I just received come custom paint jobs from Trinidad Tackle today... Lake Ontario proven patterns. Tight lines peoples. Sent from my VS996 using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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Like I said...im OCD... If the lead breaks and pokes through the sheath, I feel the rig is comprimised. I've had the lead core break off on a big king before... It wasn't the #15 leader... So at some point the core was damaged... I change out my cores every 3 years... Mono sooner... Yup I'm a worrier when it comes to tackle. If my gear fails and a customer played the fish right...its on me.. If they loose the fish because they played it like a jamoke, it's on them...lol Sent from my VS996 using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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Opinions wanted on a baha cruiser 28 weekender
Missdemeanor replied to Hachimo's topic in This Old Boat
Just did a below deck restoration on my 313... New Black locust Stringers.. ZF Hurth Transmissions, and two new 383 Stroker Motors... Great boat. She has gotten me home safe in some God awful waves.. I owned and operated a 1989 Baha Cruisers 280 Sport Fisherman (same boat as the weekender except less cabin & more deck). Here are my thoughts: -Make sure the stringers and transom are in good condition (mine had been replaced in 2014) Cons -I had Ford 302s in mine, wished I had 350s -Very seaworthy boats, though mine didn't love to run a following sea -Can be top heavy, not much fun fishing the ditch -Wished mine had in-deck fish boxes (some do have them) Pros -Very fishable boats, there is a reason there are so many of them on Ontario -Very safe, high gunwales -Never had any mechanical or structural issues. Before you buy any boat, MAKE SURE YOU GET IT SURVEYED and SEA TRIALED! Good luck Sent from my VS996 using Lake Ontario United mobile app -
Dimple lights.... Great spoons... Great slow trolled Sent from my VS996 using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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Rochester 05/16
Missdemeanor replied to Missdemeanor's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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I never clip lead core into the release... I let it all out.. The release will eventually damage the lead , break it and weaken the whole set up.. The only way you might be ok is a pinch pad or rubber band. I'm way to OCD also... I have line counters on every reel and know exactly how far past the knot I let it out... Details matter in my opinion. Sent from my VS996 using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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Absolutely.... Short cores I use 20# mono for backing... My set ups for short cores are pretty simple... Starboard side...both 3 colors.... Port both 5 colors.. Run the lead till knot gets in the water..let it out a pass or two on the reel... For releases I use Amish Clippers releases... 10 color cores I use power pro backer. I think power pro slips a little out of Clippers, so I let the 10 out similar to short cores ( knot in water + 2 passes) but I will use a rubber band or two... Half hitch them around the power pro and snap them into the release.... You can also use Scotty pinch pads as well. I use them for my copper set ups. Sent from my VS996 using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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I dedicate 4 rods for short cores... Two 3 colors and two 5 colors. In recent years I've been running stick baits on them... You can switch from regular stick baits to deep divers to achieve greater depths. If it's a spoon bite... You can throw a dive bomb on the leader of one of the cores to get the rig down further. I have two ten color rods also... Copper and Weighted steel have been very popular in recent years. I run many different lengths of copper from time to time, however I have a lot of confidence in lead cores... One hint is to let out your lead until the knot from the lead/ Backer termination hits the water... Then let out a couple passes on the reel.... My theory is the with a little backer in the water, the lead core will sway more...especially in sportier conditions... Sent from my VS996 using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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Rochester 05/16
Missdemeanor posted a topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Started out front hoping some Sharks would be hanging on the mud Line temperature break. Didn't take long to see the Kings had vacated that area. Ran East and found a nice patch of 45degree greenish water. Tossed out the gear and let her rip. Kings were there and on the Chew. Best set ups were 3 and 5 color cores with Bay Rat long shallows on them. Critic Shad and my secret Rats were the best. It was great to see all the boats out on a beautiful morning... This week's forecast looks kinda bad with NE winds but next weekend looks to be shaping up nicely.. Get after 'em Sent from my VS996 using Lake Ontario United mobile app -
I use Clippers releases and they work mint on shorter cores... 10 color I might use a rubber band half hitched on the backing then put rubber band into the release. Sent from my VS996 using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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2020-2021 western zone season dates
Missdemeanor replied to thejigger's topic in Waterfowl / Bird Game
Waterfowl hunting in NY blows now anyway... Birds migrate down on cold snaps in December. Usually when the first season is just ending or after its closed. They have time to get acclimated to the area, find feed and settle in. Now they arrive... Fly into a Hot LZ and never get a chance to settle in. Last year I saw big flocks arrive, get shot at by every dock or Floating bush and then hauled the mail. The birds that stayed got super stale... Real fast. I will be spending my money out of state now. Sent from my VS996 using Lake Ontario United mobile app -
Rochester 04/25
Missdemeanor posted a topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Cold weather lately has kept the water temps down a bit but the fishing has been heating up. Best spoon for us was the stinger ( regular size NBK) but anything green and silver took a shot. With the kings around, I tossed an old school black and silver rebel on a 5 color core...didn't take long for a Shark to rip it off the board.. If you go out this time of year, fish the marks. We caught kings on just about every rig in every part of the water column. No set depth was more productive and I was chasing marks with the riggers all morning. The marks on the bottom may not necessarily be Lakers... Pulled a couple kings off the floor. Tight lines..... Sent from my VS996 using Lake Ontario United mobile app -
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100% spot on... Joe had a hint of saltiness but he was approachable and generous. He and I would talk about his "past lifetime" career and we would laugh how some things were the same and how a lot has changed. A lot of the old timers I spoke with said Joe was a good cop but had a sense of humor. I met him many years after he retired , but he still had the swagger of an old time beat cop. I was like "Damn... I bet this guy has some war stories". The more I got to know him, the more stories I heard and I was exactly right. I remember telling Joe a story about a real crappy brawl I was involved in at work. Guys got hurt, but it ended up being OK. Joe shook his head and said.." Better you than me Kid. I couldn't do it again." We just laughed and got back to talking about the the fishing... It's going to be rough hearing Thunderstruck now.... But when it comes on, it's going to be loud... Sent from my VS996 using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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Bruce.... I was in contact with someone from Robert Duffy's office tonight. Very receptive... Sent from my VS996 using Lake Ontario United mobile app