Oh, forgot to mention... tested the new chinook diver out the last few weekends and I just don't care for them. They do have very little drag when fighting fish, which is their major plus. Their major negative is with a spinny/fly, they run way too shallow. I trolled in the last two days to see where they would hit. Out 250ft, malin wire, spinny fly, it hit at 62ft. Out 300ft, same setup, it hit at 67ft. My dipsey set at 280ft with thicker wire hit at 78ft. Also, I run two wire per side and when using the chinook diver on the stern most rod, it comes up under the forward dipsey EVERY time. I made the decision today to go back to dipseys.