Reeljerks, I agree, thanks. Sponge, what Mark means(correct me if i'm wrong) is if a fish does not hit and your bringing the rig in, keep it in the release until you can grab the cheater off the line and then release the mainline from the release. with out a fish on. This way you only tangle when a fish is on....but your reply made me laugh..and not in a "laughing at" way at all!! Tank