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Guidance Requested...
chinook35 replied to Lewis863's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Guidance Requested...
chinook35 replied to Lewis863's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
“ the trench “ is between Stony point and Stony island. If you have a chart or GPS you will see it clearly. It can be great or it can be a desert beginning of August should see fishing pick up in that area. Watch for charter boats and do what they’re doing. Downriggers are a must. It gets very congested because of the narrow nature of the trench , so use long lines at your peril Good bass fishing along the high rocks by Whele state park. Good luck -
https://www.newzjunky.com/nysp-82-year-old-three-mile-bay-man-dies-in-boat-fire/
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Unusual Condition off of Ibay
chinook35 replied to Sea Lion's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Cpt Dan Keating addresses this phenomenon in his books along shore currents can pile up debris, out in deep water it usually means warm and cold water stack up and form the line usually along an upwelling of cold water ( warm and cold don’t mix well ). That’s why you can see the thermocline on your sonar. Debris sinks to the place where the temps meet and become visible on the screen think of this as a vertical thermocline. Have seen it many times -
Henderson kings
chinook35 replied to Kevin J Legg's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Fishing out of Mexico
chinook35 replied to Logger Gen II's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Fat Trout hit the nail on the head The Eastern basin of LO can be on fire one day and devoid of fish the next Salmon are a pelagic fish and can move great distances overnight. They also move up and down in the water column following preferred temps and bait fish Fishing in the Eastern basin is more like hunting than fishing. You have to find them to catch them. Later when the mature Kings start migrating east to their spawning grounds , they are more concentrated and not as apt to wander. -
Henderson Shores, 3 sm. salmon
chinook35 replied to RC36's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
The two year olds are what is available in the eastern basin at this time of year. The matures will begin moving east in mid July 🤞 A 20’ difference in depth between cable counter and actual depth is not surprising. There are times I’ve let out 150 ‘ of cable to reach 100’ currents , wind , boat speed all contribute to blowback Now that school year is over , I hope to get out more frequently. We did very well on browns inshore this spring and a few nice walleyes in the mix -
That’s probably why the experts are looking into it 😝
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I use Shakespeare pl-259G coax connectors ( same used on vhf radios ) and pl-258 connector between them. The pl/259 is dependent on the size of your coax I need 8x. I’ve used this system for years on cannon speed & temp and intellitroll. I have also used mason tackle coated cable forever. 300 ‘ spool of 150 # coated runs in the $50 range. There are cheaper connectors available on eBay and Amazon can’t vouch for quality
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Fat Nancy’s, all seasons , a-Tom-ick , fish307 All reputable dealers
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Mexico bay action?
chinook35 replied to Tribetroller's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Good advice. LO is an inland sea and can’t be underestimated . Small boats are fine for inshore spring fishing , but later in the season ( like now ) , the fishing moves offshore and a 20 mile run to fish is normal. A seaworthy vessel is a necessity. It can go from calm to 6 ‘ waves in very short order. Ask me how I know 😝. A vhf radio is a life saving addition to your gear -
Mexico bay action?
chinook35 replied to Tribetroller's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
It to mention the fact that June is a notoriously sloooow month in the eastern basin. LT aka mud chickens , will usually cooperate in 150 fow fishing cowbells and gambler rigs or spin n’ glows close to the bottom. Keep the speed below 2 mph -
There is a school of thought that the cable hum actually attracts fish
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That's exactly what they are LO has a huge population of Gizzard Shad The DEC needs to find out what caused this die off
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Here’s the rule Get Your Vessel Inspected Regulations to prohibit bringing aquatic invasive species into Lake George began with the 2014 boating season and continue today. Vessel inspection technicians must inspect every trailered boat before entry into the water and decontaminate the vessel, if necessary. Once the boat has been inspected, it will receive the vessel inspection control seal (VICS). No boat will be allowed to launch without an intact VICS Seal. These rules apply to all 86 public and private launches, with a $500 fee for violators. In addition, as of June 8, 2022, under new state law, if a DEC inspection station adjacent to a public waterbody in the Adirondack Park (which includes Lake George) is open for operation, boaters must have either a self-issuing certification or decontamination certificate from a DEC inspection station before launching into the waterbody. Boat inspections take place at seven stations around the lake: Million Dollar Beach Launch: 139 Beach Road, Lake George, NY Dunham's Bay Dock & Launch: 2036 Bay Road, Queensbury, NY Huletts Landing Marina: 6068 Lakeside Way, Huletts Landing, NY Norowal Marina in Bolton: 21 Sagamore Road, Bolton Landing, NY Mossy Point Public Boat Launch: 158 Black Point Road, Ticonderoga, NY Rogers Rock Public Campground: 9894 Lakeshore Drive, Hague, NY Note: The Transfer Road Inspection Station is now closed. Everyone knows the phrase, "It is all fun and games until _____". On a populated lake, these sorts of situations can occur, and while everyone also knows the phrase "accidents happen", many unsafe situations can be easily avoided simply by being familiar with the rules. Lake George is a unique lake, and therefore it has special laws that differ from other lakes in the region and in New York State. These laws are enforced by the Lake George Park Commission (LGPC) and the Warren County Sheriff's Department. A boater should not enter the water without first realizing some of the different rules that Lake George
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Why. I’ve used the same terminator for years with no issues. If you do decide to re-terminate , you can buy just the plastic part that the cable runs through from fish307 for about a dollar each way cheaper than buying the whole terminator kit
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Oneida lake is connected to LO through the Oneida and Oswego river system. Hope this is a local die off and not some new environmental problem https://www.newyorkupstate.com/outdoors/2023/06/what-killed-thousands-of-this-oneida-lake-fish-last-week.html?outputType=amp
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Wildfire smoke?
chinook35 replied to Rtrucking40's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Downrigger Backlash
chinook35 replied to Just1skipper2's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
There is rather more than a 2’ difference between the amount of DR cable out and actual depth of your weight blowback ( and the actual depth of your lures) is depending on speed , currents , and the weight of your weight (pun intended) my probe shows actual depth of my presentation. There are times I’ve had to let out 150 ‘of cable to reach 100 ft down Watch the angle of your cable the more the angle , the more cable you have to let out to reach the desired depth. Don’t rely on your sonar to tell you how deep you’re fishing it can only tell you how far your weight is from the ducer , not how deep it is -
Downrigger Backlash
chinook35 replied to Just1skipper2's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
This topic has been addressed many times on this forum. There are charts that can show the approximate depth of your weight using math , amount of cable out and the angle of blowback using your sonar ( distance finder ) to track your weights does NOT show you the true depth of your weight , only the distance of the weight from the transducer if you have 100 ft of cable out and you have 20° of blowback , your weight (and lure ) are actually running at about 80 ft Your sonar may show that you are fishing at 100 ft , but it’s actually showing the distance from the ducer , not the true depth takes a while to get your head around this but it’s true. All geometry -
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You are correct about the king action starting in mid July on the east end of the lake I’ve been fishing LO since the late 70’s and it’s the same year after year. The major influx of water into the lake is the Niagara River The bait and the majority of pelagic fish tend to gather here it is what it is. If you want king and coho action before July you will have to go west