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I’ve seen reports that LO kings are spawning at 3 yo instead of 4 yo. That could account for the smaller size. They are missing a full year of growth. I second the motion that we should bring in fresh pacific chinooks to strengthen the gene pool But with the DEC mindset to restore the native fishery, I doubt we will ever see new pacific stock introduced
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That brings back memories. The ESLO derbies in the’80’s There were many times the number of boats out there in those days. And the conflicts were spectacular 😝 and big prizes and planer boards and long lines were few and far between. I’m not sure I ever saw a planer board in those days. Squid 🦑 ( hoochis) and dodgers were the lures of choice. Thanks for the memories
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I get what everyone is saying. BUT , some fisherpeople are determined to run 400 -500 ‘ longlines and planer boards out 150’ on each side. In traffic that’s a recipe for lost tackle I think asking for 300 yards ( 900 ‘ ) clearance is being a little optimistic. It’s not just you and the boat crowding you. He may have traffic coming up that you can’t see. I try to give everyone a FAIR amount of space. The key word is FAIR. Don’t ask for 300 yards. You won’t get it
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It’s showing two objects at let’s say 100’. They ( the fish arch and the weight ) are both 100’ from the transducer , but they are not at the same depth due to blowback of the weight Hard to get your head around , but it’s true. Like I stated, a fish hawk or other device that tells actual depth of the probe and weight are a real eye 👁️ opener.
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Right on !! The sonar (distance finder ) is showing your weight distance from the transducer it will only show the true depth of your weight if you are stopped and the cable is straight down. Any angle on the cable will lessen the depth of the weight , but it will still show the actual distance from the ducer , not the true depth it’s running. A fish 🐟 will show actual depth because you are passing over it ( arches) If it was attached to the boat , the same rule would apply the distance would be shown not the actual depth A fish hawk is an eye opener. It takes all the guess work out of the equation
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Ban on cash prize contests for wildlife ??
chinook35 replied to chinook35's topic in Open Lake Discussion
Here’s more : Sometimes you have to wonder if downstate lawmakers even know there is an upstate. Legislation is being proposed to ban fishing and hunting tournaments and derbies in the state of New York. In a story first reported by First Rochester.com, the bill is being introduced by lawmakers from around the city. Here's some of the language in the proposed law: It shall be unlawful for any person to organize, sponsor, conduct, promote, or participate in any contest, competition, tournament, or derby with the objective of taking or hunting wildlife for prizes or other inducement, or for entertainment. The proposed punishment would be up to 1 year in jail and/or a fine between $500 to $2,000. The bill was read on the floor, then sent to the Committee on Environmental Conservation for further review. Read more on the story at Rochester First.com. Read More: New York Lawmakers Consider Ban on Fishing & Hunting Tournaments | https://bigfrog104.com/new-york-lawmakers-consider-ban-on-fishing-and-hunting-tournaments/?utm_source=tsmclip&utm_medium=referral -
Another potential attempt to end tournaments. It’s about hunting for the moment, but you can be sure peta and their friends will work hard to include fishing https://www.wrvo.org/politics-and-government/2023-07-20/new-york-considers-ban-on-cash-prize-contests-for-hunting-coyotes-squirrels-some-other-wildlife
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Guidance Requested...
chinook35 replied to Lewis863's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Guidance Requested...
chinook35 replied to Lewis863's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
“ the trench “ is between Stony point and Stony island. If you have a chart or GPS you will see it clearly. It can be great or it can be a desert beginning of August should see fishing pick up in that area. Watch for charter boats and do what they’re doing. Downriggers are a must. It gets very congested because of the narrow nature of the trench , so use long lines at your peril Good bass fishing along the high rocks by Whele state park. Good luck -
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Unusual Condition off of Ibay
chinook35 replied to Sea Lion's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Cpt Dan Keating addresses this phenomenon in his books along shore currents can pile up debris, out in deep water it usually means warm and cold water stack up and form the line usually along an upwelling of cold water ( warm and cold don’t mix well ). That’s why you can see the thermocline on your sonar. Debris sinks to the place where the temps meet and become visible on the screen think of this as a vertical thermocline. Have seen it many times -
Henderson kings
chinook35 replied to Kevin J Legg's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Fishing out of Mexico
chinook35 replied to Logger Gen II's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Fat Trout hit the nail on the head The Eastern basin of LO can be on fire one day and devoid of fish the next Salmon are a pelagic fish and can move great distances overnight. They also move up and down in the water column following preferred temps and bait fish Fishing in the Eastern basin is more like hunting than fishing. You have to find them to catch them. Later when the mature Kings start migrating east to their spawning grounds , they are more concentrated and not as apt to wander. -
Henderson Shores, 3 sm. salmon
chinook35 replied to RC36's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
The two year olds are what is available in the eastern basin at this time of year. The matures will begin moving east in mid July 🤞 A 20’ difference in depth between cable counter and actual depth is not surprising. There are times I’ve let out 150 ‘ of cable to reach 100’ currents , wind , boat speed all contribute to blowback Now that school year is over , I hope to get out more frequently. We did very well on browns inshore this spring and a few nice walleyes in the mix -
That’s probably why the experts are looking into it 😝
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I use Shakespeare pl-259G coax connectors ( same used on vhf radios ) and pl-258 connector between them. The pl/259 is dependent on the size of your coax I need 8x. I’ve used this system for years on cannon speed & temp and intellitroll. I have also used mason tackle coated cable forever. 300 ‘ spool of 150 # coated runs in the $50 range. There are cheaper connectors available on eBay and Amazon can’t vouch for quality
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Fat Nancy’s, all seasons , a-Tom-ick , fish307 All reputable dealers
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Mexico bay action?
chinook35 replied to Tribetroller's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Good advice. LO is an inland sea and can’t be underestimated . Small boats are fine for inshore spring fishing , but later in the season ( like now ) , the fishing moves offshore and a 20 mile run to fish is normal. A seaworthy vessel is a necessity. It can go from calm to 6 ‘ waves in very short order. Ask me how I know 😝. A vhf radio is a life saving addition to your gear -
Mexico bay action?
chinook35 replied to Tribetroller's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
It to mention the fact that June is a notoriously sloooow month in the eastern basin. LT aka mud chickens , will usually cooperate in 150 fow fishing cowbells and gambler rigs or spin n’ glows close to the bottom. Keep the speed below 2 mph