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 Several times to skaneatles past few months.. last trip mid last week was not great, maybe a total of 8 keeper  fish .. Some nice size perch up to about 12 inches, couple nice size rockies, a massive sunny, and a short LMB... Several toss back perch .. Wind was brutal, due south and I was at the north end.. Just raging whitecaps until noon... By then the bite was totally dead... Skinny has been ok for me this summer, not great numbers but many nice fish, and they are really sweet eating compared to other lakes..  Personally, I have no need to limit out on panfish.. If I get say 10 nice size mixed panfish, its a good trip for me.. That will last me a week...bob

 I love perch as much as anyone, but I don't understand this  hard headed preoccupation  with the perch fishing at Seneca, and guys beating the water to death trying for them.. So many other lakes with good perch fishing,  as well as big fat sunnies,rock bass, Crappies, bullheads etc..
  Jeez, if you fish owasco or skaneateles, in 20-25 FOW with just worms, you should have no trouble finding a few dozen  mixed panfish, including lots of perch  of really decent size.. Yes you don't see the 2 pounders you do in seneca sometimes, but to me there is nothing wrong with foot long perch with nice thick shoulders, along with  bull bluegills and pumpkinseeds..
I catch a lot of very nice   panfish these days, and no longer bother with Seneca, and beating myself up trying to scare up a few  big perch..
 the other lakes are giving up plenty.. No, not the Seneca giants, but still great fishing.

 I guess I never found the need to catch 25 2 pound perch every time  I fished..   8 or 10  decent size perch and some big sunnies are  more than enough for my needs...I  guess i am just getting old, but when fishing becomes too  much like hunting, i simply  switch to easier prey... bob

8 minutes ago, jerktroller said:

I agree with all that but the areas you are describing are a small percentage of the lake. Maybe that will be enough to support a fishery 

  A "hot"  primary fishery???.  Probably not.. However, sunnies perch, bullheads, pickerel, LMB, Rock bass don't inhabit 150 foot depths suspended mid lake over 300, and the lake has good  fishing for those species  at various places.. The walleyes will do ok there if they aren't descended upon by hordes of meat hungry anglers... They will provide a secondary or tertiary fishery for those in the know that find the spots, patterns, techniques... I'll most likely never fish for them there, but some will, and probably in years to come, some will do ok with them.. Will it replace Oneida in the hearts and minds of walleye freaks???.. er umm, no... bob

7 hours ago, jerktroller said:

I don't know of many lakes like Skaneateles that have good walleye fishing over the long term. I hope I'm wrong. We will see...

Why not??.. The lake has changed a LOT from years ago.. its a lot less clear, there are weeds everywhere, where there were none at one time, and the lake is stiff with small perch and other panfish in the shallow areas for the walleyes to eat.. the entire south end of the lake is a big fairly shallow submerged  weedbed, with a lot of cover for young Walleye and their prey.. walleyes don't need alewives to eat.. they eat crayfish, bugs, worms, crayfish, small catfish, perch, sculpins, madtoms. shiners . just about anything.. I doubt there will be many 15 pounders in a lake like skinny, probably more like what i am used t catching in the susquehanna river, where  a five pounder is a big fish, and 15 to 19 inch fish are the norm... bob

 Skinny is  fast becoming a Eutrophic lake as are the other Finger Lakes.. Thats a natural course for small lakes, but should never have happened with huge deep lakes like the fingers.. That is the price that has been paid for choking these lakes with mcMansions, "getaways", Farms and vineyards.. All that stuff has to go somewhere, and in the fingers, it goes directly into the lake..  Until this year it had been many years since i fished Skinny, and I was shocked.. Character of the lake has changed immensely... Clarity not even close to what I remember, weeds everywhere... its a shame, but in reality we all did it..
 Now that my  "the sky is falling" rant is over , let me add, i think the Walleyes were always in skaneateles in small numbers.. i have heard about them for many years. I don't think its a bad thing.. i just think the lake is changing and becoming more hospitable to Walleye reproduction... Same thing with sunfish.. They are everywhere in skaneatles these days, and sadly a lot of them are on the smaller side[some big ones too]  Something has made the lake more hospitable to them, as years ago they were not there in the numbers we see today.. The Finger Lakes are changing, like it or not.. There will always be fish, but who knows what the balance of species will be??? bob

1 hour ago, Nautitroller said:

 

Keuka had a major die off of alewife probably from the lake freezing over a few years back and the sheer numbers of Lakers in that lake put a serious hurting on the bait.
Cayuga has a very nice balance happening now, great bait and fish that are feeding aggressively. That equals great Fishing. I think that Seneca has an over population of bait currently. Fish do not have to work for food and they feed but not aggressively. Tons of fish being marked in Seneca each time we are out just have to find the wolf pack that is feeding..
Will the cormorants destroy the lake I think not because they have been there for as long as I can remember. It's again a balance. Stocked fish are always the wild card in the balance equation. Too many and no bait, just right and fishing is tremendous. Too few, bait thrives and fishing is slow. The question is do these birds hurt the balance? Probably.. but good luck selling that to the DEC and having a season to just kill them.

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 I understand your point of view,  but the sheer numbers of Cormorants will put a severe crimp in all fishing on these lakes,, The ONLY thing that will stop  a fish  from getting eaten is size.. 150 FOW is nothing to a Cormorant.. It won't hurt the trout/salmon trolling for the next few years, I agree, but remember without stocked Salmonids, these lakes would not have  many in them.. Cormorants are notorious for loving  stockie size trout.. Its a LOT more efficient for them to grab a 9-10 inch trout, than it is to grab a 4 inch Sawbelly or Goby.. Never think they can't decimate these big lakes.. they have decimated entire  coastal fisheries in the northeast, and those fish migrate, away from the  damn cormorants.. However when they are juveniles, in shallower water, Cormorants eat dozens a day, ...each.. They have wiped out the winter flounder in many NE states, a species that for many years had no limit, no closed season.. Now you can take 2.. Cormorants  wiped them out.... They can and do  destroy fish populations in widespread areas, and the Finger Lakes and Great lakes are not immune..  The flocks I witnessed  on the south end of Cayuga were massive.. Hundreds and hundreds of them, all over the place, acres of them in places.  I was sick when I saw the numbers, unlike anything I have ever witnessed... They don't eat grass as we all know, they eat fish, lots of fish, and man, there are a LOT of birds out there right now...bob

 They feed and travel in flocks.. BIG flocks.. If you see singles, you are lucky. When you see flocks, the fishing goes south FAST.. They eat an average of a pound of fish a day, each bird.. When you see thousands,.. well just use your imagination as to the damage they can do to ANY body of water in a year,, They destroy fishing, period... Here's a good read... bob
http://www.startribune.com/cormorants-actually-are-a-problem/133719513/

 Just what these lakes needed.. Another monstrous stress factor to layer on top of a bunch of other stress factors that have been increasing in frequency over the past decade.. Cormorants  can decimate healthy fish populations in short order...  Salmonids are NOT immune.. Although  a 5 pound trout isn't in danger,  dozens of 10 inch ones a day are, EVERY day.. Cormorants  eat a  LOT.  They usually dive 50 feet or less, but have been recorded  diving over 200 feet, so there is nothing that swims thats safe from these SOB's... Maybe next we'll be lucky enough to get Walking Catfish, Asian Carp, and  Snakeheads  to go along with all the other good stuff  thats gotten into in the Finger lakes... bob

Cormorants on cayuga

 Has anyone noticed they are there by the THOUSANDS???.. I knew they were around, but the south end of the lake was infested with them, from Treman to Myers and beyond.. big flocks everywhere, diving, resting, flying.. Great,... with all the problems on these lakes, this is just what we needed,.,, I hope they eat billions of  gobies, and choke as they are doing it..
Cormorants in  the numbers I observed is a very  bad  thing.. They decimate fish populations in pretty short order... bob

 actually, I am pretty impressed by this little lake..   We caught this one, and at least 3 or 4 others were caught within  that day alongside  the sunfish in pretty shallow water.. There might be a lot more  of them there than people realize.. Gonna try  for them in a few weeks after the water cools down.. There was a fresh dead one as well, possible one that was caught and released and didn't make it.. bob

Rainbow

Well, it IS a rainbow, just not a big Finger Lakes one.. But its still a rainbow, still a holdover, and it might just as well have been a 10 pounder, to my grandson that caught it in a little  local park lake.. Yeah, its only maybe 13- 14 inches, but it was a monster compared to the Pumpkinseeds we were mostly catching.. It made this good looking young mans  day.. His name is Landon, and he LOVES fishing with papa, and loves to eat everything he catches... I have to hide to release the  4 inch sunnies and perch we catch along with the keepers.. He wants to keep them to eat, but I suppose thats what 4 year olds do.. My favorite fishing partner!...  oh yeah his pal Lulu the cat approves as well... bob

 sold...

sold  to  Sammy Dog

 Yes boat is registered until 2020. I used it several times this year, but find I use my 14 footer a lot more these days...I just don't need the boat any longer.. bob

 Candor ny

 btw, the Garmin color FF comes off...  Goes on my  smaller boat... bob

  as stated, its a dated design, but with a paintbrush and a little imagination, it could be a  very  good fishing platform she is still solid and stable.. Served me well for years..

 Pics are  from today, I am just to lazy to reset the date on the old camera... bob

 I will try and get a few pics up  his week.. its a cool old boat and the design is dated, but it fishes really well for a 15 footer...Acts bigger than it is.. Very wide and stable... bob

 70's..  starts and runs perfectly... Tank on top... Brand new water pump, points cleaned and adjusted, carb dis assembled, cleaned, Starts quick and runs great!,. Cosmetically pretty good shape.. Choke lever is missing, but choke works fine , I just stuck a piece of wire where the handle was.. This motor saved my ass in cayuga  yesterday when my main engine quit.. I actually planed a 14 footer  a few years ago with this, sitting midship..  Good little motor, but these are kind of noisy little things,  no neutral or reverse,  and they start in gear, but thats how they made these small motors years ago.. Its been very reliable, always ran great, just don't need it anymore... Come  take it away for $100... bob

  Its an old  1970 boat  built by a long gone company called CMF, out of the carolinas..
 It is a 15 foot glass side console patterened after a  Boston Whaler or a Mckee.. Deep wide  old scholl fiberglass skiff .Really wide flat floor, and a LOT of room.. She could use some paint and such, but the floor and transom are good, and it might make a very good boat for trolling  with 2 guys.. Lots of space aboard this thing.. It had a low cut  self bailing transom decades ago, and used a short shaft motor  at one time, but someone built the transom up with STEEL!!, to cover the cutout, and it has used a long shaft for a long time. I would not have used steel, but its very solid, and was well done.

. i had a 30  HP on it and it was fine for years, but its more suited to a 35 or 40..  Boat  could use a little TLC, its  a little  dirty from hard fishing use,, but its solid, and really is   a great wide open design for fishing the Fingers which is what i have used it for for a long time.. It actually still  has the old style dual push pull cable steering, which works fine..

Comes with an old but VERY good, VERY solid trailer..  They don't build them like this anymore. Solid NO RUST   heavy built  steel frame,, good rollers, good EZ Glides, good lights. good side rollers, good winch.. NO issues at all, launches and retrieves the boat beautifully.. I usually fish alone, and launch and retrieve   very quickly and easily by myself and I am in my mid 60's.., .  I think I had this registered as a home built.. I do not have a current reg for it.. The tires have been badly dry rotted for 10 years, but have tubes in them ,  and i have taken this boat everywhere with the as is with never an issue, and never even have to put air in them,, Still, It DOES need tires.. I used this boat on cayuga, 8/21/17, motor died, and its time to move on... $100 takes the boat and trailer.. ... bob

Long shaft with controls... motor always started and ran perfectly, for years/... It was running perfectly while I was fishing on 8/21/17 at Cayuga Lake and just died, mid lake.. started and ran again for a little while and then quit for good.. took me 3 hours to get to the ramp with my emergency 2 HP motor..

It has good spark, and both cylinders are 120 PSI compression.. Took carb off and cleaned it, but that didn't help.. With excellent compression, and good spark it has to be fuel related, but I have no spare carb to try, and really don't want to mess with it any longer, i was going to sell the boat anyway.. Its a project motor, that Monday at 9:30 am was running great, and at 10 am was not running at all.. Its a little dirty looking could use some paint and clean up.. prop is good, it pumps water great, and was running fine until it quit.. Actualy, it does start, but dies quick. If you are good at outboards, and have parts or can get them cheap, it might be a good deal for you... If nothing else, it has a LOT of good parts... starter, coils, CDI, Lower unit etc... First $100 takes it... bob  
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 sorry, Panfisher, but we are not talking about a seasonal "up or down" period.. These lakes are  being  subjected to intense  environmental pressure, and aren't going to be able to withstand much more.. Not sure how old you are, but years ago the life was TEEMING inn the near shore areas of the 2  big Finger lakes, and its no longer there.. The water often looks bad, and sometimes even smells bad..  Remember, just because stocked fish  grow big, and are readily caught does not mean all is well.. As long as the alewives are abundant, that will continue..  thats fine with most members here, because this is primarily a site for  guys that troll for salmonids.. No problem there..
 however, to  say its fatalistic to voice the  direct observation of guys that have fished these lakes for decades, is  not good... You could say  we are fatalistic,    but we could say you have your head in the sand.. The building , shoreline   tree, grass, and brush clearing continues at breakneck speed,  vineyards and farms are going great guns..  Add to this  more and more development along  feeder streams, and the  mass invasion of extremely harmful exotic species, and one should have some serious concerns... I can't even fish for sunnies or perch at cayuga with a worm and bobber, or small minnows with my little grandson.. Any natural bait is instantly swarmed by hundreds of gobies, and thats all you catch.. For decades I fished only Seneca and Cayuga, but the  warm water species I prefer are simply  not there in the numbers they used to be .. Not even close. I have  adapted, by moving on.. I agree that we should work at improving the environment, but  its beginning to seem like theres just not much that can be done in lakes this size.. Can't remove the farms and vineyards, can't remove thousands of Mc Mansions and llet the tress , grass and bushes grow back.. Can't remove the Gobies, Fleas, and Zebras.. Fatalistic??.. yeah I suppose, but with good reason I think... bob

 yes it gets bad out there.. dangerous too.. People swimming mid lake, can't even see them in a chop.. Kayakers, canoers, jet skis,tubers puller behind big cabin cruisers, water skiers,  paddle boards, row boats, fishing boats, hot rodders, big old mahogany Chris Crafts with flags  flapping,  Pontoons by the billion,, half of them drunk it seems, the other half simply oblivious...Get out at the crack of dawn, and off the water early.. It will change  for the better in just a few weeks...bob

 change it up.. There is good bass fishing and panfishing all around that lake in 20 -30 FOW on small jigs or bait.. Catching   bass and panfish is a lot better than not catching trout.. I have been up there 3 times in the past few weeks, and have seen NO boats trolling at all.. All bass or perch fishermen...

 Pequod.. we met up once jigging for Lakers at sampson years ago...

 I have to disagree with the size.. i caught a lot of nice fat, full perch on skinny.. yes there some dinks, but I kept a bunch of nice ones as well.. The average rocky was really nice too... Sunfish at the north end tended to be a little small, although the other day I caught a massive one at the south end, that fought like hell.. Thought i had a good SMB.. I catch on plastics as well, but what  difference when you tip it with a piece of bait,, If you don't have worms, take a small sunny or perch, and cut it up,, add tiny slivers of  meat to the jig hook,, Your catch rate goes way up, and the size gets bigger, and you'll nail a bass now and then... If you ever want to hook up there on skinny, PM me, I would be happy to show you my ""hotspots""... bob