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We ended up 2 of 2, 10lb laker and a small 5lb king. Both fish on spoons on the high rigger. Most fish on the graph between Shipbuilder and Hedges. 90 feet of water had the best picture. House work today and back at it again tomorrow morning.

Anyone boating any fish this morning. Off of IBay and marking a few. Most marks in 80 to 100. No bites, running flasher and flys and switching up spoons on the other riggger. I don't have down temp / speed. GPS has been between 1.8 and 2.8 down 50 to 70 with 4 rods in the water. Fish are at the balls, but no takers.you can see them streaking towards the gear. Surface temp is 56.0 off of Shipbuilders.

7.5 max HP Kicker motor mount and steering assembly I have a kicker motor bracket assembly for sale. Not sure of the age. I am guessing from the 80's as i remember it on Dad's boat. It has the tiller arm to attach to your outdrive so you can steer it from the helm. It looks to be in great shape if someone is interested I can go take photos and get you more info. I dropped it off in my storage place. It looks like a Spar Marine raise/lower bracket. The steering looks to be something like the EZ-Steer quick connect. I also have a Johnson 8hp to go with it. If interested let me know we can make a deal. The kicker Johnson outboard was purchased new in 2000. Quote

We have been out here since 6:30. Lots of marks and bait but only 1 brown. Have not seen any of the other boats catching. 25 to 50 fow. Surface is 65* it was 76* last weekend.

As asked, our setup is mostly NK spoons (mags right now). I have boated fish, they hit mostly black/purple and green glow. I do have spin doctors and flys, dodgers, flashers. No diver rods (I have them with mono but don't use them). I run Scotty riggers with 12# Cannon, balls and Roemer releases. Speeds are between 2 and 3 on GPS mostly 2.5ish. I will add I have been fishing this lake since the 70s and have won a derby with these fish. The past few years with new gear has been tough. I should go back to the old Proos downrigger and the old Heartland Diawa rods and Sealine reels they worked great for me. Thanks for all the great tips. Many we have tried. Some guys today came by my boat when they were pulling their boat out and said they boated 10 fish. When we compared notes we ran almost the same stuff, same speeds and depths except he did a laker program with cow bells and that did well for him. My cow bells are in my storage locker.

I can't buy a bite out here. I read all these reports of guys going out just for a look and boating several fish on 1 hour on a whim. I go out for 8 hours of hardcore trolling and I got no releases in 8 hours (changing speeds, depth and lures flys you name it). So my guess is speed is my enemy. I don't have a Fish Hawk. All the fish I have caught this year have been south troll only fish at 2.6mph. What surface speeds on GPS are you guys going out of the ROC / ibay area. The down currents are crazy out here. Pulling the riggers under the boat on an east / west troll. This morning it looks like the thermocline is at 55 on the graph and all the marks say 55 also. Is anyone fishing deeper than 55 this morning out of IBay. I am in 150 to 250 down 50 to 80 across my spread with 4 rods out. This morning we're running Coyote Ugly and Northern King mags.

Thanks for the report. I am at Mayer's and for me the fishing has been tough this year. I don't have a sub troll or Fish Hawk. I have noticed the current in the lake is ripping. Are you seeing any difference between east or west troll. What speeds are do you doing on GPS if you don't mind sharing.

My friend's cottage is right there. She told me about a month ago that it had opened and I think she has launched her ski from there since then. Sandy Creek near Hamlin, is the one I am talking about.

Where can I get these locally. Their website chart shows these going down to 100'. I want to try them out. I called BE Fishing and Tackle and they do not carry them.

I have Diawa and Shakespeare rods with Diawa and Okuma Convector 30 reels. Last week I purchased 2, 9'6" MH Shimano TDR dipsy rods from BE F&T. The price on the rods was so good I bought another Okuma Convector 30 and spooled with with 20lb. These rods are wonderful. I wish I had purchased them a long time ago.

I agree, not cottonwood but something new. After trolling this morning we went screwing around for bass in 20 feet. The kids snoopy poles even got the new dark brown fleas jigging for bass. They are impossible to remove and tear up the line.

I have battled fleas since, well forever. But, yesterday out of I-Bay I ended up with the nastiest brown water fleas. Not your normal translucent fleas. These were aggressive fleas. I say that because you can't remove them. They are currently wound up on my reels. I bought a new reel from BEFT yesterday and had them spool it up. Now, 100 feet into the spool where the fleas were the line is all chaffed. The fleas "chomped" on the line and I am not sure the line is any good any more. Has anyone else discovered this new bread of flea. They will not budge, and are dark brown.

I put one on my 18 Wellcraft center console. It was a bow mounted one and I made a plate to remove it. I also had a custom cover made and it had a velcro addition. I could attach a trolling motor cover (bump-out) or use the traditional closure. That way, no matter what the situation I could cover the boat.

It was on the Webster, NY Facebook page so my guess is local to Webster. The rod is a 3 year old 13 Fish Omen Black.

On another forum an older fella is looking to get his favorite rod repaired. His large 1st guide snapped at the foot and he will need a new foot and a rewrap. He took it to B&E and they could not help. I know guys around town make rods. I am hoping one of them can fix this for the guy.

The "sneezing" effect on a 2-stroke outboard is usually caused by too lean of a condition. Because the lean bur is a fast burn it escapes out the exhaust port before the piston can close it. It may also be a direct cause of the low compression. A lean burn is a very hot burn and it will melt the piston. Most often on the exhaust port side. If you like to tinker, it should be a really fun 3 hours of your morning. Then fatten up or clean them carbs. Read your plugs.

I had to visit a customer in Victor yesterday. So, these folks are only another 15 min. I stopped in and dropped off my prop. She told me that they are the only game in any driving distance. Her husband now picks up props from marinas in PA and NY as far the Adirondacks. All the other prop shops went out of biz. They are really good folks to deal with it will be back before the boat is out of storage.

I won't order the one I want (because there is no way to know how it will perform) . I want to try 4 or more then pay the 5 or 600 for the prop. A guy in FL is willing to send me the 4 he thinks will work better. But I have to pay shipping both ways for 4 ss props and buy one of them. Not worth it for me. It sucks we don't have quality places to buy props around here. The folks in FL will bend over backwards for me. I'll take it to Canandaigua, they fixed a prop for me several years ago and did a great job.