No Bill, but 150 - 180 would be a good place to take a look. Went 6 for 8 out of Sandy tonight solo...… Checked inside first, and the temp was 73 on the bottom in 75, so no BT temps...… 150 - 180 fow was very good, 85 - 100 down. 52 F down 95......just about even on spoons and spinny/flys. riggers and divers both took hits & fish. Current was very manageable. fished for 2 1/2 hours, so it was a fun and busy night. hardly any fleas.
My advice to the OP is to research chirp before you dismiss it. Like Rick says, If you do any perch fishing or jigging, you will appreciate the detail. I haven't found the reduced cone angle at 50 kHz to be a game changer while trolling, and at 200 kHz it's even less.
The Garmin Echomap 93 and 94 chirp series have performed well for me. Garmin is reasonably priced and very easy to use. Like you, I fish Erie and Ontario, and mainly troll. I don't know about Garmin customer service, as I've never had issues. I use sideview and downview occasionally, but most of the time I rely on the chirp mode............. Been a Garmin fan for years.
I have run a 4S Mercury 9.9 off a small dedicated fuel tank on an 18' aluminum boat for 5 years, without any issues. The engine was a Craigslist purchase, and I probably put 100-125 hours a year on it. My only minor complaint on the 9.9 Merc is noise and vibration. It's louder than the 4S 115 Merc on the boat...... If doing it again, I'd get a Yamaha.
tougher for us today...….. 5 kings and a lost brown from 125 - 175. West of the creek..... temp went deeper, current got less. Biggest fish today was 12ish lbs, and we had a treble break off of a tournament tied fly to lose our only major of the day. Pulled at 9:45 to miss the ____show at the ramp.
Happy 4th folks...…. enjoy the day and breath good air.
The same depth(110-160) worked well for us West of Sandy...…. We boated 10, but lost the 2 biggest fish of the day..... 65 to 90 down..... mostly spoons for us. 2 steelies, and the balance kings. Beautiful day.....
For you guys who regularly fish Oneida.......... On Western Lake Erie, they throw weapon rigs with small crawler pieces during these hatches and catch fish. Ever try this on Oneida?
Lots of stuff out there on weapon rigs.
https://www.outdoorhub.com/how-to/2011/06/20/weapon-rig-walleye-101/
https://lakeerieguide.com/lake-erie-charter-rates/lake-erie-walleye-charters/lake-erie-fishing-techniques/
https://bskustomlures.com/collections/crawler-harnesses/products/bs-walleye-weapon-style-rigs
This would eliminate the "pigtail effect" of the wire line in the last 8 - 10 feet, and the potential for kinks in the wire due to it.
I've thought about trying this, but the extra knots/swivel has scared me off.
Good fishing for us today. 3 majors, 2 juvi kings, one shaker and 2 steelhead, and we probably dropped 4 fish. 250 - 300 fow out of Sandy. We took fish on both spoons and spinny fly...….. riggers, cheaters, diver rods all took fish. 160 on the wire divers, and 35 to 60 down worked on the riggers. 2.3 - 2.5 MPH. Quit fishing at 10:30. Flat water, nice breeze, good company, great day...………….
Blue spoons with pink or orange ladderbacks have had their moments on steelhead for me over the years. A blue NK28 with tape, Dreamweaver SS in Coyote, or Yecks version of coyote.....
Might try Sandy in the morning Bill …... jigging for lakers to change things up.
Was hoping for a report on kings from today, but seemed kinda breezy at my place today.
Here's an idea.... the title of this thread is Thank you to any members of law enforcement.
Dude....If you want to start another topic go ahead...… but respect the concept that there are many people who value the service that law enforcement provides, and that many people realize their job is difficult to perform in the climate of the moment. You might consider leaving the crime ridden metropolis of Ovid to visit Buffalo or Rochester during one of these protests and report back on what you saw...… on your own thread of course.
Again, Thanks to the men and women in blue.