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RIP sandy slammer 7-28-2016
skipper19 replied to bettieanne's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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North Lat Line Approximate Depth of Water 23N 50' 24N 100' 25N 250' 26N 300' 27N 400' 28N 450' 29N 500' 30N 550' 31N 575' 32N 600' 33N 610' 34N 605' 35N 600' 36N 590' 37N 560' You won't need to go much beyond 200 feet of water right now. Unless you target steelhead, but most all the bait and fish sslmon and trout, have been in close mostly 150 to 170 feet of water. Deep...100 or more down. Some are coming from about 80. Hope this helps! Sent from my SM-N900P using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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Landmarks To The East (Distance and longitude are approximate) Ladders… also known as the white steps… ½ mile east of the harbor (around 11W) Umbrella Tree…tree on shore that resembles an umbrella… 1 ½ miles east of the harbor (around 09W) The Ledge… east of the harbor, starting at the ladders, running east for 4 or 5 miles… steep drop-off 50’ to much deeper (thru the years, the adjacent deeper waters has been a prime staging area for fall chinooks) The Flats… 2 to 4 miles east of harbor, big flats closest to river (around 06W to 07W) Little Flats and Glass House… a short ways east of big flats with big house on shore with many windows (around 03W to 04W) Bald Eagle Marina…8 miles east of the Oak (around 01W) Troutburg… small bay about ½ mile west of Devils Nose (around 78.00W) Devils Nose… large point a couple miles east of Bald Eagle Marina (dangerous… Big rocks in shallow waters out for several hundred yards) To The West (Distance and longitude are approximate) The Woods…small wooded point, 1 mile west of the harbor (around 12.5W) The Park… Lakeside Beach State Park, just west of the Pump House (around 14W or 15W) Johnsons Creek… 3 miles west of the Oak… be careful on shallow spring trolls (around 16W) The Bluffs… a little further west (around 17W) Green Harbor… another ½ mile or so further west of Johnsons creek… another shoal in about 8’ of water, about 5 miles west of the Oak (around 18W) Shadigee Point… about 10 miles west (around 24W) Chrome Dome… big silver topped silos 2 miles west of Shadigee Point (good area between here and Shadigee point for LOC Spring Derby kings) (around 26W) Golden Hill… State Park with boat launch, a few miles further west (park located on RT. 18, less pressure on spring kings) (around 28.5 W) The Power Plant… 20 miles west of the Oak (around 31W) Sent from my SM-N900P using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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How do you lift a boat off the trailer for hull work?
skipper19 replied to Todd in NY's topic in This Old Boat
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How do you lift a boat off the trailer for hull work?
skipper19 replied to Todd in NY's topic in This Old Boat
I've often wondered the same thing. Jacking the boat off the trailer never seems that hard to do but how to get the trailer out from under it with Jack stands and stuff under the boat and axles and cross members to come through them. I assume you have to keep the supporting stands of the bow on the outside of the trailer and hold the boat up with a heavy board or timber in the bow area high enough to clear fenders and wide enough to clear the trailer width. Once out with the trailer I think I would further support the outer chine areas under the sides of the hull. Sounds like a big process, and this again is just a guess for this process, and I have never done it. Yet.... Sent from my SM-N900P using Lake Ontario United mobile app -
Be sure you have constant 12 volt supply. If the voltage goes down, the servo will slowly edge the throttle upwards. Also be sure to run the servo wire inside the cowl of the motor away from spark plugs. The fields around the plug wires will mess with it. It's not likely a heat issue, but probably a voltage issue. Sent from my SM-N900P using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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Went down Tuesday morning and the lake was rockin!..waves that is..as a solo I didn't want to try messing with the wind and waves that were breaking spray over the jetty and breakwall. Went back home for the day and got ahold of my friend Steve to go out Wednesday morning. He brought along his grand daughter Alexis for the morning and it was a great day with a pond still lake..very warm however! Not so much warm in the deeper water inshore though and with the probe down 100 feet it was returning 43 degrees with 77 on the surface in 160 FOW. I sent down a 42 second mag glow cup spoon on that probe and the other out down with a Mag Moonshine Geezer, then went for a center rigger to set up and got interrupted by the 42 second at 100 down. Felt small at first, handed the rod to Steve and said it's a baby, reel him in. A half minute later it's screaming away from the boat! Really fast!...both of are like what the!!!??...not so small after all, he just woke up! After a few hundred feet of drag burn, the fish stops, Steve begins pump and reel action, thumbing the line down on the rod for a little more pressure and the fish burns his thumb on another blistering run for a couple hundred more feet!...we were westbound and close to the fish now, and westbound was the fish too, off to the side and racing us on the surface about 50 to 75 feet away. A few throttle bursts to get him behind us and finally over the side in the net he comes..24.35 lbs on the digital. Another smaller king of about 10 lbs came after that on a 400 copper outrigger set with twinkie rig 11 inch paddle and meat. Had several other LARGE fish hit and either come unbuttoned or break off. All came from 100 to140 feet down in the ice water, and one on a 100 copper clipped to the ball @ 120 set over 170 FOW. A nice tough battle but broke the snell off in about 5 minutes on a twinkie meat rig. Also took the rig off to the side far enough to tangle with a long copper on the outrigger as it came up through the water column.....[emoji84] [emoji20] ..so that caused a copper knit job, and we spent a good bit of our time sorting that out, to no avail. Flats to the glass house was a decent amount of action out east of port. Mag spoons on riggers and meat rigs on three different coppers had top honors, but that was all we ran for the day. Did not get flies or dipsey presentation wet that morning. Alexis had a great time and was very fun out there! She loved touching the BIG FISH gramps caught! Once, while steve had the fish close to the surface, I reference to it as a shark, like all of us commonly do sometimes, and she became hesitant to see it come in!...she said "You said it was a shark!", when I asked her why she went to the front of the boat, and come see grampa's fish! It was funny as all heck how she picked that word "shark" up and spooked about that! She saw the teeth and just knew it was a shark! Lol! But then she had to feel the fish and that was good enough, for more, even after in the cooler for a hour..."Can I feel the fish?"..[emoji68] [emoji1] ..on the way back in she stood on the bow deck hanging on the front railing, and excitedly watching birds fly off the surface in front of us Great day and smooth water! Mark Sent from my SM-N900P using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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I do a perfection loop knot. 85 to 90 % strong. Once finished, run the loop through the eye of ring on terminal snap swivel and pull the snap swivel back through the loop. Half hitch style. Easy to change terminal tackle, no cutting, no re tie, double holding wrap on the eye. The knot does not slip, and is plenty strong. Easy to tie quickly. Sent from my SM-N900P using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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[emoji108] Yup, good local folks! Sent from my SM-N900P using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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Bungee cord.. Sent from my SM-N900P using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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They will be present to Sept. But they get less tough if that is a description..lol. a bit mushier and less trouble to remove I'll say. Sent from my SM-N900P using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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Braid will be a big pain with fleas. Only one brand will work well if you need to use braid, and maybe you already own some and that is why you want to use it over spending for a new line setup. I have had very good experience with Fireline Fused Original...30 lb..and that is the only brand that has worked well that I know of. If you have power pro..don't use it with the fleas out there now. You will not be happy!..10 minutes trolling and you have to bring it in and clean it. 20 minutes and you will not be bringing it in with out major troubles. Wire is only better for the cleaning off aspect, it still gathers fleas as bad as braid in my opinion. Nothing is perfect using divers. If you go mono, then you get stretch and that is no fun either. I recommend the Fireline if you must have braid...but be sure it is fused original 30lb. The crystal brand of fire line is no good for the fleas either. Sent from my SM-N900P using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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Question on 500 copper
skipper19 replied to pjprod's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
You only need a 500 if your 400 isn't reaching deeper fish than the 400 will reach. If temps for productive fishing are 100 feet down or more the yes a 500 will be beneficial. You can make your 400 go deeper if necessary and keep one copper for everything. I assume you have down riggers?. In the case where you find temps and fish hanging at depths 90, 100, 110 even deeper, you likely have a rigger ball running down there...maybe at 100 feet. You can if you want, and aren't opposed to stacking on that cable, put a stack release 80 feet above the ball that is going to be at 100 feet. Now your 400 will reach 100 also. Or mix it up...70 feet above the ball. Now ball at 100 and 400 copper at 110. It works. I do that often with 100 coppers 20 feet above the ball or 30 to 40 above for mixture of king and steelhead sets. Sent from my SM-N900P using Lake Ontario United mobile app -
Dave is right!...in fact I don't like bearing buddies. Many reasons for that on my particular trailer and axles, and have done exactly as you are thinking. Any axle spindle you have that has a zerk in the end will be a much better way of purging old grease and water if any, out. Too many times bearing buddies are over pressure and pop the hub seal. I've had piss poor drivers at the ramp parking on the east side of the oak, back out, crank their wheel right into it....cause it sticks out...and bust the expensive bearing buddy right off into useless pieces of junk!...so if you have zerk fitted spindle ends, grease them, wipe out the old purged grease, put a inexpensive cap on it. Sent from my SM-N900P using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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Pap, I should have been more specific. I probably should refer to the circular bait well as my storage. It's in the center of the transom. I kinda becomes a catch all for everything, since I don't have use for live bait most of the time. It's got a small horse feed bucket in there with notches cut in the rim to hold "go to lures and some flasher flies, 4 dipsy divers, a couple releases, and a fish hawk TD. There even is the empty soda or water bottle collection in there!..so it's a close by tub that can serve the purpose of holding the rigger weights. It has a lid on the too and a light in there, also its a very white interior and makes a great place to throw a portable 12 volt fluorescent trouble light in there to charge glow lures.Sent from my SM-N900P using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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I am guilty of that. Hanging on the hook of the scotty. Had one once fall off because the eye pulled out of the ball. Happened on the water and of course, it was deep sixed. I know it pulled out because the snap was still closed. I don't do it any more on the road if I remember to take them off, on the water though they pretty much hang on the hook. However those eyes do wear over time swinging around. I've had some get pretty skinny in the contact point. My live well usually carries them now on the road.Sent from my SM-N900P using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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Fishing
skipper19 replied to proline22's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Fishing
skipper19 replied to proline22's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Fishing
skipper19 replied to proline22's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Blow boaters
skipper19 replied to whaler1's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
You're are absolutely right too Les! I spend weeks on end on the highways. .5000 miles a week. I have the sense that more than half the population has little regard for courtesy and forethought for the obvious. Most unintentional, unknowingly lucky, indicated by the curious looks on their puss when you act enraged or speak threats to their aloof nature. Human nature and laws doesn't coexist on the same plane. Unless you intentionally cause harm back to an offensive individual, in essence lobbing snag hooks, firing flares etc...now who's really in trouble. If the nuisance happens intentional then you must report it. Many times I have wanted to educate individuals who intended me harm out here on the road, almost every day, it's hard not to, but if you can avoid the harm, you just ruined THEIR day. Report them. Better yet have witness. I've had idiots try to get ME in trouble on the road, even call cops on me for trying my best to accommodate their stupidity with as much evasive action as possible, even though they did not follow the law of yield. Which by the way is a courtesy law only. When you get into an accident from not yielding right of way, then it becomes a point of who did or didn't. When someone knows they did it, and you can tell by the usual insults, and you are with others in company (witnesses) just turn away, and discretely give them the finger...back!I'm still not pulling lines. If they are close enough to haul my gear. They are close enough for a picture and registration numbers to send a copy of bills for replacement, along with a copy of picture of their dumbfounded puss looking back. Note attached... my attorney is expensive. Reply soon. Relax, and fish on....the roadways out here are enough in terms of 4 million miles of intense idiot avoidance. So far so good, earth and sea. No jail time yet..... Sent from my SM-N900P using Lake Ontario United mobile app -
Blow boaters
skipper19 replied to whaler1's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Absolutely right...I ain't pulling lines because the only spec on the horizon. ..meaning clear visibility...comes straight to my position that is only changing at 2.5 mph. That is just plain inconsiderate. The horizon at 6 ft above sea level is more than a mile away...Sent from my SM-N900P using Lake Ontario United mobile app -
In theory, you could run more than one copper on each side....as long as you didn't catch any big kings. Steelhead, Atlantics. The five coppers run perfectly... Until you add a misguided missile fish to the end of it! You DO want to catch fish right?..tangles add insult to injury of lost fish and tackle,...and time! Sent from my SM-N900P using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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Here's something that goes against the common thinking. When you want your rigger weights to speed up, you slow the boat abruptly. The pendulum effect speeds the bait and ball. Watch your down speed on a deep rigger, and you will see it increase speed as it swings closer to the boat. You might find the extra speed at the ball is the key. And maybe run the boat a couple tenths faster. Mupped rigs do work for streakers like Rick said. Get them to notice a big flashy spoon up above the ball. They don't always hit that spoon but as they drop back they see the second chance smaller meal coming over the shoulder. Sent from my SM-N900P using Lake Ontario United mobile app