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Over 7000 views on this thread. Seems it could generate some stimuli in the right places in Albany. Too bad they can't get to see how much this subject is being discussed. Would it do any good to introduce them to the site and this topic?..I wonder.

I get that was in the swamp my friend...it was a strange look in the pic to see what looked like snow on a nice green forest floor! So that was the surface water in the swamp! Great pic and a good spot for his waders..

You probably will do yourself a huge favor and replace the diaphragm inside with a kit from yamaha. The thing will eventually leak into the engine and you will fill your crankcase with gasoline. The plunger that rides on the valve rocker can be removed by pushing it down and turning it to release it from its bore. Don't loose the spring. Clean out the orifices. Reassemble with new o ring to the head. Stinking ethanol eats the rubber diaphragm and you can't find the bad spot looking for it with light passing through.

Jerry, you get them to panic and lose velvet by throwing down snow like that? ...hmmmm. .

I have an old PSE. It's not fast by today's terms of speed bows. I've tried a couple different ways to increase speed in an effort to lessen drop of trajectory. My inability to assess distance over 25 yards in the woods was the driving force of my quest for flattening arrow flight. Obviously speed would help in that department. I have since learned you have to work with what the bow you have in your hand will give you. I tried lighter arrows and heads. I even tried an overdraw rest. Both increased speed but sacrificed other parameters. When both used together....wow. Fast as it could deliver...but ..loud, not consistent, and unforgiving on form. The overdraw was ok by itself, but it was the unforgiving on form part that was undesirable for hunting. Target yes but hunting no. As for arrow weight the overdraw effectively made a heavier wall shaft shorter and lighter. Good for me with the 31 inch draw. Good for kinetics too. I wanted more speed yet, so went carbon and dropped approximately 80 grains total arrow finished weight. Not much faster. About 10 fps. I have my own chronograph so I checked it. What I got was as much as that bow could do to lessen trajectory with speed on it's built in level. I hunted one season with that setup and was very unhappy with results on a buck. I got the deer in the freezer but not without 2 arrows of which did not pass thru. I since removed the overdraw that gave me significant speed increase but it lowered the effective brace height causing loss of consistent arrow launch in less than desirable form position. Actually went heavier shaft and an inch longer and back to heavy fixed blades. Told myself 25 yards or less, cause that's what the bow will do effectively with my poor trajectory assessment. It's not really "jarts" anyway...so I live now with 242 fps flat enough to 25 yards of pass thru shots from a 465 grain arrow driven quietly by 70 lbs at 31 inches. Beyond that is pushing the bows limits and my human error. I would much rather catch a fast baseball than a slow bowling ball in my hands....if ya know what I mean! Mark

Remember these!

http://www.lakeontariounited.com/fishing-hunting/index.php?/topic/23154-A-Pro-Am-thought...Agreed....from 4 years ago...any affect today?...all the other factors considered as mentioned make up the other 80%.

They are out there. 175 fow the screen at night is just awesome on the sounder. I don't know where or how they show so quick after sundown but it makes me wonder if they just are tolerating much colder water and deep over 175 feet or more near bottom. They don't feed down there so what else?

Last night when picking up in the dark at 175 fow, the screen came alive with fish. All over the screen and appear to come from the depths below 150 feet. It was really awesome. There's fish out there, but it seems they are attached to the bottom in daylight. I was running my sounder on a zoom function at 100 to watch the level of my spread better and should have tried checking the bottom more in that range of water. This was straight out in front of port 175 fow. It's like the fish are staging in the ice water and just not active until the sun goes down. Still couldn't get a hit on the last two riggers I pulled after dark.

Chris with his 26 lb king

Fished with my son Chris on Saturday and Sunday. Then fished with friend Lois on Monday. Saturday, Chris and I motored to the 130 fow in front of johnson creek and fiddled around for a few hours in the morning between 100 to 150 fow with no hits and ice water just 30 feet below the boat. It became 9 am and we went north from there to the 26.4 line where a few grab and rips happened on the meat in the chute running on a 300 copper. Then the outboard downrigger pops and it flies off to the races. I reel up some slack hand off to Chris and he begins a long battle with a mad king. I tried not to have all the lines back in the boat while he was fighting but this fish was all over the place and I was running a marathon of line pulling and throttle pushing as the fish was trying to out run the boat on a few occasions. Well all lines are in, the salmon stayed out from behind the boat for a good while and finally glided in for the net...very nice fish 26 lbs of king salmon hen. Came on a Mag spoon, ladder back green and black Michigan stinger with glow cup down 50. We had about 6 rip and tear on the copper now running 400 feet out with the twinkie meat. No solid hookup. Later in the day a 12 lb king came on a twinkie meat rig running on the probe rigger at 90 feet in the 26.8 line. The ice water was much further down out there than in the 100 to 150 fow ranges. Had 43 down there at 90 over 350. Sunday, not so good. Went back to the same numbers and the fish were scattered. Only managed one small steelhead all day. We tried out into 28 lines but the screen was pretty barren. We wrapped up a little earlier this day and we had family coming for the barbeque I had to get started on. Monday, Lois came to fish the afternoon. We went west into the waves and trolled from Johnson Creek back east in the 26 to 27 lines 6 rods all different presentations sent to the thermocline and below. Temp was reading 46 down 90 out there and there was a great screen. Lots of bait and lots of fish especially toward the end 9f the troll out front of port in 175 fow. After the sun went down the screen came alive. Very frustrating to see those fish appear seemingly out of nowhere and they would not commit to a strike. I watched many streak through the sets and nothing. We only managed a small steelhead on a spin doctor and fly off the dipsy out 175 on a 2.5. Nice evening though as the humidity trended downward and a nice breeze was from the south west.

Great report! Frigging mouses! That's amazing!...I've had everything else nest or stow away but not a mouse. Wasps, spiders, robbins, bats,..but no mouse. Must be George the outdoor cat has been doing his job. He sleeps in the boat sometimes and he's fat! Beautiful fish and nice looking eats too!

Alloy....mix of two composite materials...not pure flouro carbon...they just used a fancy term to describe two plastics blended together in two different ways in the same sentence. Copolymer = Alloy just not talking about metal which Les has already pointed out. It is kinda dumb :huh:

Was good times for sure Andy! You guys are welcome to come and camp anytime! Watching the assembly of the charcoal grill was entertaining! Between my son and yours, and especially Jason they did an exceptional job of trying to avoid the directions..... any way I'm glad you got a good hot fire going in that thing to burn off the Chinese paint before cooking on it. Oh and hope your hand is healing ok! ...Fillet knife miscue.. ouch! :blink: We all had fun with stories of the day and days gone by. Even Ray K was a source of entertainment and he wasn't even there!:lol: Good times, and the yard was permeated with the smell of fine barbeque of chicken, venison, and bacon, as two charcoal grills were cranking out fine caveman style foods! I'll have a report for my son and I fishing, coming up soon..thanks for your report and fun Andy and crew!..Come on out any time my friends! Mark

Very true what is being said. I would add that over the past few years we humans have become much better predators as well. Advanced electronics, better intel, and open communication where and when it's peak time to fish. There have been many salmon caught in the 2 year class and that seems as if it will recover some by next season, but on the other hand those 2 year class fish became a lot of creel take. It could be a couple years yet before the high point of adult salmon come back. Some of it will, just by the fact of discouraged anglers not showing up on the lake as much. Also some of those anglers have been targeting other species. I think it will have a natural reset IF the stocking of pacifics continues to be peak output. Just some thoughts of mine...Mark

I like 44 to 46 inches behind an 11 inch paddle. About 40 for an 8 inch spin doctor. Not an exact science thing really. Just not too short or too long. 40 to 46 in. Is good if an inch longer or shorter I don't think it's a super critical thing for me.