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Ingredients: Boat, time and money with a dash of cash in the tackle, and gas in the tank Firearm, more money and time, with a dash of gun powder or substitute stick and string An ounce of persistence and a pound of patience A pinch of perception can replace a ton of obscure Butter, garlic, and salt and pepper to taste Charcoal, and hickory Nice grill Fruits of labor...priceless! Money doesn't buy happiness, but it does buy horsepower.... I've never seen a sad person in a boat haulin' A$$...!

Brian is top notch! Nice offer! Money doesn't buy happiness, but it does buy horsepower.... I've never seen a sad person in a boat haulin' A$$...!

I like the fish to tell me what they want too....before I give them what they don't want! Lol... only guarantee is if you put it in the water, it's gonna get wet[emoji108][emoji108][emoji108] Money doesn't buy happiness, but it does buy horsepower.... I've never seen a sad person in a boat haulin' A$$...!

They each work on days when an attractor is working. Equally in my experience. Depends on what you put behind them too. Like Les mentioned, a lot of variables to think about. Some times neither will work, but I think the more aggressive the fish mood, the more each work. I run 90% attractors on junk lines, and maybe one on a downrigger. Usually too much commotion in a downrigger set with balls and other lures, so if I run one, it will be on about 50 to 75 foot lead from the balls and deeper by 10 to 20 feet or more than other sets on a center rigger. Money doesn't buy happiness, but it does buy horsepower.... I've never seen a sad person in a boat haulin' A$$...!

Mine is on the stern. The display is big enough to see from the helm and I like the display near the downriggers to monitor the temp and work the riggers at the same time without having to crane my neck to the helm. Once it is set, then I can crane my neck back from the helm to check on it while watching the rods. Two birds, one stone... Money doesn't buy happiness, but it does buy horsepower.... I've never seen a sad person in a boat haulin' A$$...!

A couple springs ago off the Niagara Bar with my son. Trolled three downriggers and had my attention to the rear and son was driving. We ran over a submerged giant log that was down about 6 feet below the surface. Of course all the rigger cables caught it and drew it deeper. So the boat finally stops, the riggers are on the way up. Should have reversed first, but the cables had sawn into the soft wood and imbedded. The log came up, lodged itself in between the outboard and hull, cables still imbedded. What a mess, had to use the boat hook to dislodge the cables. The motor was almost useless but after dropping the cables, the tree finally dislodged and we reversed and it came off the cables. That was the end of our 5 minutes of trolling, went back home. Money doesn't buy happiness, but it does buy horsepower.... I've never seen a sad person in a boat haulin' A$$...!

I am guessing that when the Moses Saunders sphincter opens, the subsequent dump will rid a lot of bio nutrients down the chute. The extra current should be Intresting while trolling. More downrigger tangles...oh boy..[emoji53][emoji34] Money doesn't buy happiness, but it does buy horsepower.... I've never seen a sad person in a boat haulin' A$$...!

Penn squall 50LW should work for your combo. Money doesn't buy happiness, but it does buy horsepower.... I've never seen a sad person in a boat haulin' A$$...!

Jeeze Scott, you need a tender dinghy to get your clients on board!.. Money doesn't buy happiness, but it does buy horsepower.... I've never seen a sad person in a boat haulin' A$$...!

If you don't feel compromised by 30lb backing and cutting down to 700 feet of power pro, you could get 500 of 45lb blood run on a Diawa Seagate 60 and have room for the wind on flourocarbon leader. Just a suggestion, and it's a nice fast reel reasonable price most places. Money doesn't buy happiness, but it does buy horsepower.... I've never seen a sad person in a boat haulin' A$$...!

emergency first aid kit? Bandages and antiseptic, tape, wire/side cutter for impailed body parts from hooks. Money doesn't buy happiness, but it does buy horsepower.... I've never seen a sad person in a boat haulin' A$$...!

When running the Mupp Rig both lures are on the main line so no tangles there, but with a stacker, it is nearly impossible to "prevent" tangles. Only one way to put the odds of avoiding tangles in your favor is to use a out and down rig on the stacker. That uses a small dipsy on top and planes the stacker out, but it's kind of a PIA to get set. Lots of extra time in getting that set up. You will get crossunder with stackers, with a mad fish on the ball set, having that forefront in your mind will help you to more immediately figure the best way out of it before it gets to be tangled. Nature of the beast! A couple tactics that work sometimes is to keep the bottom lure tighter to the ball. The stacker on the copper is at least 20 to 25 feet above the ball, and can give some time to grab that fish from the ball and try to direct him to the chute. Chances are you won't have a lot of control over a raging king, and all you can really do is hope he stays deep and runs away from you. As mentioned before, I only run stackers if I have enough bodies on board to justify it's use. Therefore, usually there is somebody driving, somebody to operate the rigger, and drop it another 30 or 40 feet in deep water immediately upon hookup and out of the way without releasing the stacker yet. The one with the rod can't do all that, so it's at least a three man operation, and experience is quite necessary. After the fish is coming aboard, the stacker is popped, and allowed to surf up the water column and possibly pick another fish on its trip up. It has to be popped anyway in order to reset the whole thing, but sometimes the rising lure coming back through the productive zone and pick another fish. Stackers are generally not all that fun, so I reserve them for money fishing and/or experienced crew of 3 at least. Money doesn't buy happiness, but it does buy horsepower.... I've never seen a sad person in a boat haulin' A$$...!

I had a flimsy 8 foot and it snapped in two from the wave action on Lake O. I replaced it with a Shakespeare 5225 XT 8 foot and have never had any trouble in the past 7 years with it. Pretty robust for all the abuse mine takes. It will fit any standard mount for a VHF. The only thing different in terms of frequency would be if you had one of the AIS radios that broadcast your vessel ID. Then you would need an AIS wide band antenna to work the most efficient. I would recommend the Shakespeare products. Money doesn't buy happiness, but it does buy horsepower.... I've never seen a sad person in a boat haulin' A$$...!

Wow....5 pages, off topic from the original post about a successful outing, of opinions on a clearly stated law about the killing of a limit of Lake trout. Didn't know there was any law about the disposition of the dead fish. The man was out fishing, wanted to check his boat and caught some fish...legally... A few good reasons in order of importance for legal killings of lake trout IN LAKE ONTARIO in my estimation, others may vary. 1. It's a mounting quality, cerimonious adulation 2. It's a big derby winner...not anymore though. 3. It makes a great fertilizer, makes quality fruits and legumes. 4. You can't catch any other fish, kids or someone wants to, and lakers are everywhere. 5. They make great picture subjects, then after they are released, might die anyway 6. You like cleaning their sh!t off your boat, akin to bringing cormorants along to do chinese fishing, then the cleaning of fecal material is justified. 7. Great table fare...from other lakes! Anybody care to add to the list of positive reasons to LEGALLY kill lake trout? Most of the other opinion on negative reasons have already been listed in the 5 pages...it's all about balance. Even the DEC said so, made the law, wants that limit to be used to monitor and control as with every gamefish. Oh by the way Slammin! Nice day you had, and great success in your shakedown run. Don't let those giant tomatoes become carnivorous. We might have a new fear! [emoji106] Money doesn't buy happiness, but it does buy horsepower.... I've never seen a sad person in a boat haulin' A$$...!

One thing I've learned over the past with group 31 batteries powering my 18 wheelers, is that you can get misled by cranking amps. I always thought the high cranking amps were best...more is better right?..not so in most cases with batteries. A big truck has similar issues of a boat with extreme vibration and demands. What I have found is many manufacturers increase cranking amps by using up more space in the battery case, with extra thin plates that will vibrate even more, and fail quicker. A lot of lower amp batteries I have used, always last longer, without shorting between plates due to plate thickness. A more robust battery often has lower cranking amps, say 625 vs 1100 amps, due to having thicker plates, and more space to move if necessary. Funny thing is, I almost always have to replace high amp batteries during the hottest weather. Warppage in hot weather is a killer with close battery plates. Hope this helps in the choice. I don't buy the highest amp batteries anymore, and actually get twice the time off them in the same conditions. Just make sure you get a good brand battery as well. Money doesn't buy happiness, but it does buy horsepower.... I've never seen a sad person in a boat haulin' A$$...!

I think you made a very good choice! Nice 10.1 screen and high resolution compared to the smaller versions of the Helix. Although not touch screen, it should have nice smooth scrolling and hopefully be intuitive enough to find the settings that you want quickly. Should work well for a lot of different types of fishing. One of the things I noted before about finding bottom hugging fish like perch should be no problem for that unit with a 2.5 inch target separation. Has good interface with many other systems including the I pilot for navigation and autopilot trolling with an electric motor. Good luck with it! Let us know how you like it! Mark Money doesn't buy happiness, but it does buy horsepower.... I've never seen a sad person in a boat haulin' A$$...!

That is good sound advice! I too have a sounder that is a frustrating, scrolling to the next page, looking for the function I want....and seems I never can remember how I got there the last time! Arrrrgh! Absolutely frosts me to feel so lost on the thing and the air will turn blue in about 30 seconds of "monkeying" on it. Touch screen will be my next system, but it better be intuitive so it sends me in the right direction in the process of finding a function or setting. Plus screen visibility with my eyes getting older a five or seven inch screen ain't gonna cut it anymore. I know that screen size really cranks up the price of any unit, and I don't know why, but that is gonna cramp my wallet more than anything else. Once screens go over 9 inches the price goes up like a rocket. By the way, the unit I'm using works really well, but as I said, frustrating to set, and it was inexpensive because it is discontinued, and I got it refurbished. There is a good chance you could get a quality refurbished touch screen for 1200 bucks that would have a decent size screen. Worth a look around the Internet for that. There are plenty good units out there, but as Les points out, service is a big importance to consider. I was in a Cabela's and saw they had humminbird and lowrance as main displays. I asked the desk manager there about which had better support. He said, "Well, the service rep for humminbird comes in about once a week sometimes twice, lowrance...maybe every 6 months". That kinda echoes what Les was having trouble with. High definition and target separation would be a good thing to prioritize in a bottom unit looking for fish that hug the bottom. Mark Money doesn't buy happiness, but it does buy horsepower.... I've never seen a sad person in a boat haulin' A$$...!