Our salmon Tuesday night came at sunset. You could see them coming off the bottom on the fish finder. The lat few weeks we've had a lot of fish come off the bottom to look and then go right back down...that's when it's time to change presentation and find what will trigger a strike. Fish the temp, watch your speed, and give 'em what they want to eat. It has been a tough year as Nick said. Hang in there and make sure your tackle is up to par! I'd hate to hear your kids lost a big one!