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They are used in Canada in the shield lakes for giant Lake Trout.

Probably no Gobie in the lake, but Sculpin look very similar. A myriad of Gobie baits have been developed over the years after they inundated the Great Lakes. A three-way rig with a Gobie colored stickbaits trolled slow. Maybe one of the gobie swimbaits on a jig. I have caught a ton of Western Trout fishing an ice fishing jig with rubber arms tipped with a wax worm or grub fished 3-7' under a bobber. The best way to get big rainbows out there is to fish the tributaries. In February and early Marrch go to the mouth of where the Tributaries flow into the reservoir and fish Pautzke's Red Balls of fire under a bobber. If there is a barrier i.e. dam, waterfall etc. on one of the tributaries they will be there in March and April.

When they are not eating feeder food, I would be those big boys live on sculpin sitting on the bottom. Try a Gobie colored bait fished along the bottom .......when the feeder is not going off.

From pictures I have seen the fence is not high enough to keep Elk inside.

For those Alpine Lakes Stan you may want to also look at these as they are sized right. http://www.cabelas.com/product/savant-winnie-series-spoon-by-mooselook/1888084.uts?Ntk=AllProducts&searchPath=%2Fcatalog%2Fsearch.cmd%3Fform_state%3DsearchForm%26N%3D0%26fsch%3Dtrue%26Ntk%3DAllProducts%26Ntt%3Dsavant%252Bwinnie%252Bspoon%26x%3D10%26y%3D6%26WTz_l%3DHeader%253BSearch-All%252BProducts&Ntt=savant+winnie+spoon

Looks like it is 2,000 acres. There is a development plan that was completed in October, 2015 and I am not sure why there is concern for the "white deer". As long as the fence stays up they will exist. Probably not enough acreage for Elk. http://nysparks.com/inside-our-agency/documents/MasterPlans/SampsonStatePark/SampsonStateParkDraftSampsonStateParkMasterPlan.pdf

It is not every day that 10,000 fenced acres becomes available. Perhaps a once in a lifetime opportunity to bring elk into New York and give the region another shot in the arm as a drive-thru state park where visitors can see elk and white deer from their cars and/or viewing areas. People come from all over to see the Pennsylvania herd in September. I will see if I can write some letters ( I have been doing that a lot lately).

I just used the DEC suggestion site for Whitetails to suggest the Sampson Air Force Base be studied as a possible location to start an Elk herd restoration project.

Maybe start an Elk herd??????

Agreed Les. I PM'd the original poster that if he wanted to stop development the best course of action is to get an independent testing company to check for chemical and nuclear contamination. I would like to see the state purchase the land and open it up to sportsmen as a WMA.

Les, the white gene is present in a lot of animal species. The only reason there are so many whites at the Sampson base is they were protected from hunters and there is a fence. Artificial selection. Brown deer were allowed to be shot and white ones were not.

They stick out like a sore thumb. In the wild they would be the first to be shot, the first to be seen by Coyotes. The reason you find black moths and black squirrels in cities is the exhaust from industry and cars leave a black stain on everything so the black color doesn't stand out to predators and thus are not naturally selected for. If Whitetails lived in the arctic.....the white gene might become dominant similar to Polar Bears and Arctic Fox.

Not good for the species to protect recessive traits. Fun to look at?....sure. Good for the species in the wild?......probably not. Put a population in a zoo or keep them in an enclosure.

Buy her some shoes.

Women's shoe collections are stupid. You have to pay to play. You want to play golf once a week?......$50 x 4 rounds/month x 7 months= $1400 per year. Over 10 years that's $14,000. You go to the bar every Friday night and drop $50 all year = $2400 per year= $24,000 over 10 years. Adult soccer league $400 per session x 3 sessions per year= $1200 per year......you get my drift. Any time my wife gives me grief I explain I don't go out to bars anymore, I don't go to the casino, after back surgery I don't ski or play contact sports anymore. Fishing is a stress reliever that keeps me from being an ahole to those around me. In the end if I had to, I could sell my gear and get money in return......try to do that with used shoes!!! My apologies to the original thread author.......we have gone off-course Captain!

Keep in mind the St. Lawrence River froze over the past two winters so dogs could come over from Quebec. They didn't get the ice breaker up the river until late March or April I believe so dogs starting their mating wander could have come across.