Micromanagement minute: If the water is still that cold, consider going WAY inside say 35'-45' and send out a wide program with leadcore, slide divers and riggers with long leads. If you are chasing kings head north to 350'-380'. Probe the 45'-60' down area. Kings are scattered as is the bait out there but they are there.
When I was out Saturday there was a TON of bait in 88' from the power plant to Wilson. Cold water moved in Friday so it may have pushed the Browns west towards the Niagara and warmer water. Go West young man!
I saw two 120 class suburban bucks that appeared to have fully developed antlers already. I always thought the fastest growing period was mid-July to mid-August. Make me wonder if we are in for another bad winter.
With all variables the same (screws tight, plates together and not warped) I can't see one dipsy working differently than another. The effect of current on dipsys on each side of the boat WILL be different esp. if you have any type of cross-current. A strong current pushing against the back of a dipsy could cause it to roll if you don't let it CREEP out super slow. The same current on the opposite dipsy will work against the face of the diver and just make it dig out and down more. I would not throw out a dipsy just because it spun IMO.
Last year we were getting mixed adipose present/ adipose not present schools. As stated by Silver Fox, we are seeing the end of the adipose clipping experiment for now. I don't think Kings are discriminating against each other based on presence of adipose fins.
Tell me about it! I just removed all the roller tips off my dipsy rods and installed twillis because newbies kept getting the wire between the frame and roller on my Ugly sticks. Twillies give me piece of mind.
Not sure how this turned into a pissing match. Different opinions should be welcome. Moderators feel free to kill this thread as it is going nowhere productive.
Note we have a full moon phase so no hurry to get out at the crack of dawn. Kings feeding all night often bite good in the 10 am- 2 pm window. The north shore has rolled over and is pushing cold water across. I would be probably looking close to shore in the warmer water. There might be Kings in "brown trout water" this weekend.
Looking at the temp transects page on NOAA, I would say there is a nice verticle temp break probably just outside the Niagara water flow ....say 250'???. I would be probing the typical 80-225' zone. 60-100' down. Just a guess.
Not Lake Trout, not Brown Trout, not Atlantic Salmon, not steelhead, not ALL OF THESE SPECIES COMBINED could ever keep Alewives in check on Lake Ontario. Lakers have their heads buried in the rocks chasing gobies, browns do not usually get deeper than 100', Steelhead feed mostly above the thermocline. Only kings can chase alewives where they live year'round.
I will see what I can dig up on this k.i.s.s. principle. It might take me some time to research. Good news however, this week I got notification I passed my Captain-Obvious six-pack course so I should be able to help you a lot with your questions going forward.
I did some research and this is a picture of BIV (Dude in the middle) ...perhaps changed his name to "g BIV". Maybe Roy is referring to Roy Letcher.....Roy Larson??? Could be a new group forming. Singing, dancing, fishing.