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Water conditions perfect for early King action off pier. North wind blew some green lake water in to mix with the creek water to give a nice 4' visiblilty. Hooked two males on a Moonshine firetiger spoon at first light. 4 other fish caught on the usual firetiger jointed rapalas, spoons, firetiger mag wiggle warts etc. Ah Vince.....a little too close LOL. Proof of life photos. Let buddy reel in second fish....his first pier fish..(notice tuckered out forced smile).
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RUFF RIDER Non Report 9/13-15
Gill-T replied to TOP SECRET's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Thanks for the reports all year. Plan on making the trip up for the Sodus Pro/Am so I will make a point of introducing myself. Hitting the pier tonight.....Kings love wet nasty west coast-type weather when they come ashore...should be good for spoon huckin'. -
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http://www.alltackle.com/blue_water_candy_dredge.htm
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I am sure they have run all kinds of studies about the short term usage of the tagging program.....I wonder if the DEC knows if there are longer term ramifications? Does the chip interfere with the little nerve endings in the snout that might help the fish orient to their natal stream? I would prefer the fingerlings not be handled at all....we need everyone of the little buggers to make it.
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Maybe 1/2 of the 3 year old kings we caught this year had an intact adipose fin. One could conclude that the success of a fishing year would depend heavily on natural reproduction conditions in the rivers three years prior. Bad river temps during the spawn, river fishermen success/take, spring conditions etc. are going to be factors in the size of the pool of salmon to catch out in the lake. I also question the practice of inserting the micro chips into the nose of young fragile salmon fry.....do we really know what the actual mortality is of fish undergoing this process? What about the mortality of the adipose fin clipping machine? I would also add that if conditions in the smaller tribs were too warm that fish will move with the rest of the school elsewhere. This year I think most are going to the Salmon, but a large portion of the western fish are going up the Niagara. The bottom line is based on observed bait pods on the fishfinder.......we need more kings stocked!!!!!!
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Oh no fishies.........you in trouble.
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Yep, Lake Trout are effected by the alewife Thiaminase problem as well so gobies may be the key to their future reproductive success. There may be a day when there are too many Lakers and Brian can enter them in the LOC derby?
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The two species Kings and Atlantics will be forever joined at the hip (or caudal fin). Without the Kings to keep the alewives in check.....atlantics will never make it. One of the theories about the increased numbers and size of Atlantics being caught is there may be an increase in fitness with the stocked atlantics due to goby ingestion (of all things). Where as the invasive alewife is high in the reproduction killing enzyme Thiaminase, research at Cornell has concluded that the equally invasive goby is rich in Thiamine. Seems to me the best of the Lake O story is yet to come. We may have a day when we have fishable runs of both species to target.
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27" is fine. Try getting your speed up to 2.25-2.5 downspeed.
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Oswego skunk
Gill-T replied to Vobsey's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Don't lose hope. This time of year the salmon are not feeding, but rather striking lures out of instinct/aggression. You are at their mercy as to what type of mood they are in. If you are fishing the morning bite.....it may be short lived and over when the sun comes up. Set up in the dark with glow stuff an hour before light starts coming up. The other prime time is in the evening. Try a longer stretch with a flasher/fly behind your downrigger ball and send it down until the ball touches bottom and then up quickly 5-7' before your flasher starts dragging zebra mussels. Troll a little slower....say 2 mph. If you have some planer boards you can throw out some j-plugs on leadcore. -
Where to take some guests in October and what species?
Gill-T replied to MNChris's topic in Open Lake Discussion
Two good areas come to mind. The deep water past 400' deep east of the sumerset plant west to off Olcott. The other spot that comes alive is the water near the Canadian border out deep off the Niagara. These have been traditional late season offshore steelhead and immature salmon hot beds. Tough to pick good weather days in October as the winds usually blow. For stream fishing....Eighteen mile at Burt Dam or steelhead fishing on the Catt. near the Springville dam. -
Interesting you guys on the east end are catching with the UV stuff. I have been trying to get some really cool looking combos to go and keep falling back on the usual standby non-UV patterns. A few weeks ago I sent a UV blade down in the piss/pea green water off Oswego and I was astonished how quickly the flasher disappeared into the soup. My initial thought was that these UV patterns are better suited for offshore blue zone type water? Are you guys on the east end catching with the UV stuff on the inside waters?
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A perfect day 8-31
Gill-T replied to Gill-T's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Hi Jonah. Welcome to the addiction. -
A perfect day 8-31
Gill-T replied to Gill-T's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
I have had similar incidents with farmhouses. Better to call ahead or beep your car horn until someone comes out. There is a level of paranoia among farming families. They are very isolated and have to look at strangers as potential bad doers. The shotgun by the door and protective dogs is usually the norm I have come across. I probably would be the same way. Unfortunately, there should be a level of an expectation of safety when you knock on the door. Especially if there are no warning signs to "beware of dogs". Lucky the incident did not escalate into gun play. -
A perfect day 8-31
Gill-T replied to Gill-T's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
More than one set of ugly pants aboard. My buddy with the muck boots was wearing pajama bottoms because of a dog biting incident. The poor guy went to ask permission for bow season at a farm house. When he tapped on the door, three dogs inside charged the door knocking the screen door down. One of the dogs got out and started tearing into his arse while he was holding back the other two dogs against the screen. Got a couple of good arse tears out of ordeal. My buddy got the third degree from the local cops "well did you learn your lesson"? Anyway he was feeling sorry for himself so I dragged him out of his house with his Jammies on. He is much better spirits now after the day we had.