Tim, you and I can agree to disagree on this one. I would pay double what I paid for my otter boats and still not think I paid too much. Yes, they NEED modifying. Yes, they store like crap. So much of the way I run my programs would not be possible with standard collapsable or even inline boards. I can count on my hand the number of calm days on Lake O per year. I have my otters out from splash down in March (god willing) til I put her to bed for the season in October EVERY time out on the water.