Gill-T

I was wondering about what everyone thinks about the spring ESLO derby dates? Here is my beef... 1). They put one of the weekend dates on Mother's Day. I am sure many of you have had a few discussions about fishing on Mother's day with your spouse 2). Due to the early dates, the fishing is really from the Niagara to Wilson unless you are targeting Browns, so all the boats are condensed into a small area. A later start date, say May 15th, will bring more of the lake into play and spread out the boats lakewide. 3). The weather can be iffy with plenty of East winds. Many times I have noticed a SW or West wind one mile from the lake, only to find the cold air mass over Ontario turn the winds back to the West as an Easterly over the lake. 4). College is still in session with finals and graduations so the younger crowd can't always get out. So, I thought similar to the three-rod rule, maybe if enough people felt strongly enough to contact Derby officials to push back the date further into May. Just a thought.

Yes the river looks like the mississippi. I don't get it, we have had no rain in awhile? I hear there are icebergs along hamburg shoreline on erie, so maybe they are beating up the shoreline sending mud down the river. Too bad, I just moved the boat from Olcott to Youngstown tonight so I can fish Sunday at the bar . The sattelite shows mud going way out and east to Wilson. WTF!

Having seen the Scotch Bonnet on maps, I wondered what the currents are like in the area. I would think the feature would redirect some current towards Canada, and the rest would get a bumpy ride/upwelling towards the surface. I imagine the fishing is pretty good there given the structure. Care to elaborate on the subject Jerry?

I will be out, weather permitting.

Nice work Jax. PM sent.

I have taken trips to Naples creek after the crowds have left, and have often had the best pools to myself. Often, there is a late run of fish that come up.

This weekend should be ok. There is virtually no ice on Erie. I would think your game would be browns and Coho along the shore. Past 20 FOW for Lakers, or drift for them at the bar. You want kings....probably going to need a Canadian License.

Sure it wasn't a Cormorant.......that would be good luck.

Poetry in motion if you see Larry and Jerry running six riggers. To add to Larry's post, you might want to try pancake weights with slightly bent fins on the outside riggers to increase the spread distance. When it is lumpy out, however, those pancakes will start to swim and probably tangle on the inside rigger cables. If you are doing LONG straight line trolling you should be able to determine by cable sway, which way the subsurface currents are running. You can keep at least one pancake in the water even in waves by placing the weight on the side of the boat the current is moving towards. The side current will catch the fin and push it out even further than bending the fin alone. Larry could expound further on how they use pancakes.

Name: Dr. Chad Kahler a.k.a. "Fuzz" Team "Still No Sponsor" ( formerly team "No Sponsor") Boat Name: Gill-T Hooker (my wife hates the name, because I make her wear a lot of make-up when aboard) Boat make: 23' Bayliner Trophy Home Port: Was Youngstown, now I am a traveling man due to those damn Pro/Am events Years on Lake O: Started pier fishing at age twelve.

There is ice pack along the shore from Niagara to Wilson. COLD!!!

Olcott is a mud bath right now. Unfishable. The only game the next few days will be for Lakers in the green water around Wilson in the 20-40' range. Ice from the storm on Sat. has been settling west of Wilson toward the Niagara.

I assume you meant to date the thread 4/2? Good to see the lakers coming in....they usually follow the smelt and shiners with the Kings following next. To bad the weather stinks this weekend. Ice is jumping the boom and pouring down the river.

Now Larry, it is a two way street. I may be mistaken but I don't recall any fish reports by Rebel Charters. I think everyone would love to have more reports from charter captains. We don't need GPS coordinates, but generalities sure help.

Get to work Tax Boy!!!!!

Getting a little itchy Larry?

My packet from Wayne Co. Pro/Am came today. For all those wanting to try the Pro/Am thing, mail in applications for the first event in Wilson are due May 22 by 5:00 pm. Phone # 1-877-Falls-US or email at bhilts@niagara-usa.com. On another note....a King was caught in Canadian waters today . I don't know how I am expected to work the rest of the day. I probably will drill into the side of my patients cheek while re-inacting a downrigger rod release .

The black face/white cup nk with orange tape on the face has taken as many kings on Lake O as any spoon since the late 80's IMO. An all-time classic. I made some spook patterns recently with some. I added white glow paint over the white cup.

I can only speak from what worked last week......natural colored stickbaits like a goby (brown). Until the emerald shiners come in, which will be the next two weeks, then silvery/minnow looking baits.

The distance between the green can and the red can is a couple of miles. In between is "the bar" with plenty of shallow water. Browns are caught this time of year trolling the shoreline, drifting the bottom with three-way rigs and minnows, trolling with planers from the mouth out to the red can etc. etc. Plenty of water to cover. If is browns you are after I would stick to shoreline trolling with planers. The mudline along the shore concentrates fish and make them easier to find. Targeting brown off the bar can be a needle in a haystack. Usually, they are caught by accident by fisherman drifting for lakers or King fisherman using stickbaits.

"Big in the rear".

Savant spoons has a pattern that is realistic. Rebel stickbaits in brown trout color. Storm has some colors of hot'n'tots and junior thundersticks that mimic the dull brown color. Yo-zuri makes a crankbait called Aile Goby (Bass Pro has them) that is probably the most realistic. Capt. Pete Alex's site Dreamsteelie.com has it's own custom version of a gobie spoon pattern. Aw hell, anything brown and ugly!!!!

Is that the 21' model? I have an '88 23.5' model. If you are going to slip the boat, get some bottom coat on her before the stains and grime build up......looks like a clean hull. Jamestown distributers online site has how to's and everything you will need.