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Purple Hologram Glow NK, A-Tom-mik Pro-Am fly.

There are two launches that I am aware of. The north end has a town launch, but probably will be ice locked. The south end near Naples has the other, that should be Ice free now. The better fishing for me has been on the southern 2/3 's of the lake. Same stuff that works on Seneca. Flasher,dodgers/flys, spoons, peanuts, seth green rigs etc.

Nice haul gents! Is winter fishing an early morning bite or do the fish heat up as the temps go up as the sun rises? You can include me in on a Sunday if you plan on hitting Canandaigua. The grouse hunting has been spotty and I am getting cabin fever.

Is Seneca in March a shore bound fishery or do you need your boat to get at them?

I am only for three rods for TROLLING. Three rods/angler on the piers of Lake O would be a disaster for short piers. I am also for a limit of nine total rods also.

Lawn mower, snow blower, and car will get rid of it.

Most guys around Western N.Y. either head up to Simcoe, Ontario or for smaller, closer ringbacks....Silver Lake.

Stan, you may want to try the light-bite slide diver. One, because you are dealing with smaller trout on those alpine lakes.......these divers will trip with small fish when set correctly. Second, you said you are getting snags a lot, so if you are hitting bottom with the diver, you can reel some line in quick before the bait snags due the fact you can have a long leader from bait to diver giving you time to react. I would not run these off the boards. Try the Big Jon mini disks off the boards.

Core or copper down the chute.....no problem. The problem with trying to run outriggers AND planer boards is a hardware/tangle issue. I think most run one or the other.

The beauty of the roller releases is they are infinitely adjustable as to the amout of line you can pay out. If the fish are high.....just reel some line back in on the spool. If the fish are hitting deep......just send out some more. The only tricky part is make sure you put the braid/wire on the roller and not between the wheel and the housing......snapolla if that happens when a fish hits. Keep tension on the the release once closed and as you tranisition the dipsy out to the end of the outrigger....if you throw a slack loop into the works, the line may jump the roller and end up stuck between the housing. Jerry, at Rebel Charters could expound on the system........that is where I learned the trick.

If you want to run the outside dipsys on your outriggers, you need an Afco roller release (West Marine has them) on the outrigger string. This will allow you to replace the outside dipsy without ever messing with the inside dipsy. Just send out the outside dipsy about three-four feet and clip the braid or wire in the roller release. Now have someone pull the outrigger string to move the release to the end of the outrigger pole while you thumb the reel so the dipsy follows the release out to the end of the outrigger. Once at the end, zero your line counter and send the dipsy out. You will never tangle your dipsys again.

Which one is Ray?

Un-frieking real!!!! Beautiful pics! Unreal getting doubles!!

YESSSSSS!!!!!!!! When they polled us after the Oswego event, the shark people had their ear bent to what we as fisherman need. I was probably one of a long list of fellow tournament anglers who wanted a mega shark for the probe rigger. Kudos to them for listening.

I understand protecting fish stocks during the spawning months, but in the Nipising case......the spawn was finished months prior. The problem was the MNR's tags kept coming back from kept fish. IMO, it is ok in some locations to cater to anglers who wish to keep fish for the frying pan.

Lets hope the Canadian MNR in their infinite wisdom don't overthink the control of the resource up there. During the early 90's myself and some friends would make an annual pilgrimage to Nipising-Calendar Bay area over Memorial Day weekend. Much to the wormharness toting local's chagrin, we would arrive each year with our stickbait/nighttime tactics and slay the walleyes below the waterfalls in the bay. When we would catch a tagged fish, we would submit the tags to the MNR as responsible indiviguals. Pretty soon the locals got hip to our tactics and the area became a combat zone of stickbait throwers. The MNR closed the area of the lake!!!!!!!!! until the second week of June. We don't go up there anymore. Have you ever heard of an area of a lake being closed because the fishing was too good?

John, my boat is at deer camp. I got few more projects to get done, so I want it close in case I get bored this winter. I 'm probably going to convert the ice box space to a lure tray compartment so I don't have to keep running into the cuddy when I have a "freak-out I got to change my whole spread this ain't working" moment. Did you come up with a name for the new boat yet? I am still angling for the name "Red Ass"......I just want to see a red boat named red ass driving around just to see the shock value. CT3057, painting the boat stripe is easy. Fair any holes with Marine-tex putty, sand with #220, clean, clean, clean, paint, sand, clean, clean, paint, sand if needed, clean, clean, paint. You don't wax a painted surface, it will have it's own shine. Works better with two people. One applying the paint with a roller and one following behind immediately feathering the paint in with a fine badger hair brush.

Thanks John, My boat was next to yours at Boat Doctors. You selling the Bayliner?

I have not fixed the spider cracks yet. That will be a project in the future. I have to figure out the cause before fixing otherwise they will come back. The cracks were there when I bought the boat four years ago. My best guess is cracks probagated around some of the screws in the rubrail during installation. Then years of bumping up against boat bumpers caused the cracks to spread on the upper skin. Maybe someone can chime in with a suggestion for a repair that will match the fininsh of a 1988. :?

Interlux paint. Order from Jamestownoutfitters.com......plenty of helpful tips on the site also. Adam, with paint already on your boat's stripe, you don't have to prime, just sand with #220 on a finish sander.......(no rotary or belt sanders), clean, and paint. It will come out more professional if you apply lite coats with a paint gun, but I don't own one so went with applying with a roller and follow up with a fine badger hair brush. Works better with two people because the paint sets up quick. Three coats. From a distance it looks factory, but up close you will be able to tell.

My project this past spring '08. Take off those air intakes.....and look for wasp nests.....could have been dissasterous. Goal was to change the "cheesey" light blue, for a darker flag blue. Redo rotten rope rubrail. Name boat. Remove marine carpet in back of boat floor and apply a non-slip paint. paint stripe was sanded with a finishing sander and cleaned with clean rags/acetone paint was applied with a roller/brush tip method finished stripe still taped and rubrail off still.

Shore anglers will be against this proposition.......they think trollers have an unfair advantage already. I am for three rods per angler, but with a total limit of nine rods. This only to protect the steelhead fishery. If you allow a spread of twelve rods with the charter fleet in the blue zone, it will affect the population IMO.

Did you decide on a name yet? I still like my suggestion RED ASS.

Let me hear you say LEODIS !!!!!!!

Stan, to compare our fishing as Billy V describes on Lake Ontario, and what conditions you are facing on those Alpine lakes is like comparing apples to oranges. One, we have a primarily a baitfish food supply for the Browns, where as your browns eat crayfish, sculpin, minnows, Parr-stage trout, and primarily invertebrate nymphs. Take what you can from a rigging standpoint from this site, but understand what baits work here.....may not be the best option in the high country. Keep in mind that in Lake Ontario we are dealing with stocking numbers of trout and salmon in the MILLIONS. You can troll the same baits every day in the spring and not worry so much about the fish getting "hip" to a certain lure. You are probably trolling past every trout in the system, so you will continuously struggle to stay one step ahead of the fish by using different baits and techniques.