Pete Collin

I was on the Bow river in Alberta. One spot had old bones poking out of the gravel. Our guide told us that they were buffalo bones that were at least 20,000 years old. I marveled at them until the fish started rising, then got down to more important business.

Hello All, Mark Stothard was a celebrated personality in the hunting and fishing world of Western NY. He lived on the bank of Oak Orchard Creek. The Buffalo chapter of Trout Unlimited invited him to give a comedy slideshow in 2000. He brought down the house so hard that they invited him back in 2001. Luckily I saved the old videotape I shot that night.

I live near the southern end of Letchworth Park. By the Portageville entrance, there are a few big apple trees. When they bear fruit, you will see deer day and night under them in full view of the road. It's comical watching them take a whole apple in their mouth, and make gagging motions as they pulp them with their back teeth.

Ok, you got me! And for the record I don't row across the lake either.

The thing about using stuff like a FishHawk is that it isn't in the spirit of this low-tech, 19th century way of fishing!

I deliberately bounce bottom and rarely snag. If you want your bottom leader to be, say, 100 feet down, you troll at your target speed in 100 feet of water. Let out enough line to bounce bottom. Mark your wire with the yarn like I show in the video. Then drive out in the middle and troll the thermocline.

Bigfoot, some guys count passes of the reel's level wind as well.

You let the lines partway down, get in your depth, then lower them the rest of the way. You can skip that step if there's two of you. One guy can steer and keep it in your depth while the other sets out the lines.

After a few hours' fishing, you will find which 2 leaders are getting all the hits. So you can reduce it to 2 leaders per rod, simplifying everything.

Always gets crazy when you have two fish on one rod! I think it was you who wrote on the Sanders board that you used to troll right down the middle of Cayuga, never bothering with bottom bouncing.

Hello All, I found that on YouTube there was no mention of Seth Green rigs at all. There's a few showing copper line tutorials, but no Seth Green videos that didn't involve the Austin Powers guy. I had to represent for my home state - folks ought to know about this locally-grown method! Maybe this comes in time to help some of you this season - we have at least a month of good fishing left in the Fingers!

Hello All, Brian Gamble is a fisherman that knows his stuff. We launch out of the same port. He has a reputation as a fellow lake trout enthusiast, so I have wanted to meet Brian for some time now. Even so, it has taken me this long to finally spend a morning aboard his well decked-out boat. We were a crew of three, with Keith, Brian's longtime friend, also there. Before the trip, I was fed some impressive, almost inconceivable statistics about catch rates and sizes, without any hedge that is a liar's usual way out. This was to be my first involvement with any fishing derby. I bought a one-day pass to the LOC tournament, and learned a bunch about a world that I had never taken any part in. Competitive fishing makes you look at a day on the water totally differently than somebody who just likes to admire a brown trout's spots. You must put a great deal of time in, find the most bountiful waypoints, target only the largest fish, efficiently maintain your spread of rods, compare your catches against everyone else on the entire lake. This was quickly rammed home to me when I landed a beautiful 12 pound brown trout, the biggest I had caught in years, and looked for the high-five that never came. "Aww! What a bummer! I thought for sure we were on the board with that one!" These were clearly not your average guys! At that time, Brian was second place in the brown trout category, so we needed one bigger than his to rank among the contenders. My fish fought strong, kept persistently distant. As we speculated to its size, I learned all about the issue of money on the line. It was quite a revelation. Even after splitting the winnings among the boat and crew, here I was cranking in a fish that would potentially pay me an amount of money that many guys would pay for the privilege of catching! So as flushed and happy as catching that fish made me, Brian and Keith literally had bigger fish to fry. So the early morning was for targeting browns. They bit steady, with few that could be called dinks. The dozen trout we landed made for one of the fastest-action mornings I have ever had. But we weren't done yet! I got to see Brian in action with the lake trout that he has mastered. Very quickly we were into a strong fish that stayed deep long enough for Keith to reel a second fish past before I could land. Again we discussed how big it might be, how big it would have to be, how much of a payday was at stake. When he finally got netted and dumped onto the deck, there was again that funny dynamic of one guy elated and two guys disappointed. P: "Awesome!" K: "Humph. Looks like he's only 17 pounds" B: "Yep. I thought he was bigger, but only seventeen." Out comes the scale. 17.1 pounds. How many that size must you catch to calibrate your eye so accurately? Been so long since I was out on the lake, it looked like Moby Dick to me. The next couple of hours involved a whole lot of reeling. And a lot of the reeling was left to me. Brian, being on the board with a one-prize-per-entrant policy, wasn't going to play the fish. And Keith, having had some recent surgery, offered most of the releases to me. So I got some tired arms! The action seemed nonstop, but again Brian apologized for the dearth of doubles and triples! I really had to admire that level of accomplishment. Boating and trolling involves all kinds of physical awkwardness, with tangled lines, flopping fish, dragging downrigger balls. To watch Brian constantly manipulating the lines, all the while navigating the boat and doling out tasks to Keith and me, was impressive. He and I had discussed doing some vertical jigging for the lakers, but I can see how jigging doesn't go well with derby fishing. Just to give some numbers, we landed 25 lakers, and Brian considered that a slow day. You just cover so much more water trolling, that if prize money is involved, that is the way to go. But I gave him a few of my homemade jigs, so later he can try his luck. For myself, I learned so much about trolling lakers. Funny though, it's advice that I can't really use! What I learned is what all the modern fishing technology can do for your success, and what it can do in the hands a guy that has mastered applying it. So this board is again responsible for me meeting a good couple of guys and having a great morning out.

Nice job!

I'm partial to spin doctors w/fly, flatfish, rapalas, sutton spoons.

Here's the best tutorial online of the technique. https://cayugafisher.net/index.php

I've never been able to keep bearing buddies from falling off.