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Awesome pics and plots!!!!!

Top pic - clover Next - rye/clover fall planting Spring buckwheat three year old clover plot Cereal rye/oats/winter peas fall planting cereal rye cover/clover fall three year old clover plot buck I got this year in between clover and brassica plots i can’t upload brassica pic for some reason good luck - Chris

1.) learn from what the deer are telling you on your parcel - they most likely have other more preferred food sources and you don’t have a wood lot over crowded by deer, thus they aren’t eating your bulbs 2.) try adding some winter peas to your brassica plot next year to sweeten it 3.) most people crowd brassicas and put seed down too thick…remember to follow proper seed rates to get the best greens and bulbs. If they’re hammering your brassicas too early and they’re stunted from overcrowding , you won’t get good tubers 4.) do a soil test each year. Brassicas and the bulbs need proper fertilizer to taste good 5.) often it takes a few years for deer to really start hammering brassicas unless you have no other food sources 6.) I’m not sure why you are concerned? Usually I still have some greens well into muzzle season….the deer digging up turnips, daikon etc isn’t really until deep winter on my property, after the hunting seasons 7.) don’t plant brassicas same plot two years in a row 8.) go back to #1 - follow what the deer tell you and plant what they eat on your parcel….what’s good for one wood lot, doesn’t always work for another. 9.) that being said, I have five plots that I rotate , some 1/4 acre, others 1.5 acres….my go to combos are: - clover and cereal rye fall - peas/oats/cereal rye fall - brassicas/radish/ turnips fall - spring planting of sorghum and buckwheat. I either do a no till and knock it down over rye/oats/peas or kill it and re till late summer and plant my fall stuff - once your clover gets going, over seed and frost seed in the early spring….imperial clover from whitetail institute is like crack to my deer - always always always do a soul test each year fun stuff - I love love love food plots but I’m constantly learning . Chris

The same thing happens most years in the week or so prior to "prime time rut" at the end of Oct/early November. The doe are being harrassed by big and little bucks and if one is in early estrus a few properties over, every buck in the woods is probably chasing her around. Once more does are in heat, it spreads out the rutting activity tremendously. The bucks are breaking up and starting to figure it all out. Also, I'm convinced that deer are more on edge this time b/c of the tremendous hunter pressure the first few weeks of bow - lots of hunting, people doing stand work, last minute camp work, etc. As far as food, deer change their eating habits this time of year. They are shifting from open ag and the mixed greens of food plots, to more of woody stem browse, forbs, acorns, etc within the woods. I see it all the time - I have five food plots that are loaded with deer throughout the summer and fall, too, but many times the deer are feeding in the woods right on the edge of the plot this time of year and they're eating stems, leaves, forbs, etc. I think next week could be great - the first cold, calm, sunny day after the rain and wind this weekend could be great (I think that's Monday next week) Awesome buck you shot - congrats!!! Chris

Lots of good advice given. I have and have mounted 100+ scopes….everything from Leupold, Nikon, Bushnell, Zeiss and Swarovski…..only one scope failure and it was a cheapo Bushnell. Rarely is it a scope failure, although certainly in the realm of possibilities but usually scope failure symptoms are erratic shots all over the place, slippage if your windage/elevation knobs, rattling when shook, rapid drops (good group and all of a sudden an outlier with a 10” drop). I’d do this: 1.) shoot all your shots with a bench rest 2.) buy a good scope mounting kit and fat wrench for torquing. If you’re spending $1500 on a scope, spend a few hundred more on good mounting tools. learn how to lap the rings properly 3.) torque your rings to spec and lap them 4.) mount scope and bore sight and torque to spec 5.) shoot at 50 yards first, get a good group 2” high and then move out to 100 yards dead zero if most of your shooting is at that range 6.) see what your MZ likes (dirty vs clean bore, swab before shot etc). That being said, I do not think it’s a bore fouling issue at 9” of rise (1-2” maybe but not a foot) 7.) after a good group, shake your gun, turn upside down, etc and shoot another group (when we’re in the field our guns are put through all kinds of stuff so mimic the real world scenario) if you can’t get a good group doing this, then it sounds like bad scope but there’s just so many other variables that you haven’t tackled Pm me if further ?’s Chris

Bob and his dog Thor are absolutely amazing. He found my beautiful buck this year......it ran 1/3 of a mile with a destroyed liver, single lung and hole in its diaphragm. Bob will walk you through the shot process, ask all kinds of questions about where your shot was, make you fill out the grid for shot placement, etc. His dog is really cool (found my deer after it went through thick bedding, 35,000 deer trails, doubled back on the blood trail and crossed a main road and finally into a corn field also filled with 1000's of tracks!!!). These tracking guys/gals are simply phenomenal - they take the time to find your deer and are incredibly kind and they care about the deer as much as you do. Thor will find it as it sounds like you have a fatal hit. Sounds like possible direct heart hit or even liver, guts if he bucked like that..... but certainly fatal. I also think the snow helps with scent. Thor found pinhead sized blood specks with my deer and as mentioned found it after it crossed a road. Bob and Thor will give it their all for you. Just do NOT pet Thor if he finds your deer........ Bob will warn you Good luck, try and relax tonight and let us know how you make out Chris

For sale: BigGame 12#, monofilament 4700 yard spool (roughly 300 yards removed so 4400 yards remaining Seaguar 50# fluoro leader 25 yards Seaguar 40# fluoro leader 50 yards there may be a little missing from each fluoro spool, although they look unused $50 shipped for all three - not separating text or PM me Chris 585-301-2197

Hi Dave Thanks very much I sent you a PM Thanks Chris

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Selling all 9 cameras for $200.00 total shipped!!!!! Shipping only as I’m not meeting people for face to face sales. All cameras work great. Only selling because I transitioned to cellular cameras. THREE Bushnell Trophy Cams Aggressor models : (middle camera has broken strap on back so it includes a homemade mount): THREE Browning Range Ops BTC-XR models: THREE Browning Strike Force PRO BTC- 5HDP - these retail for $159 new. Text or call: Chris 585-301-2197 Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

What a great story! Thanks for sharing and congrats again!!!!! Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

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Awesome story Any information on thus deer surging the original bow hit? Was it weakened, infected, meat tainted etc etc? I’m curious what happens to these magnificent creatures following a non lethal hit Thanks and congrats Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Power belt bullets are not typically used with a sabot sleeve so I’m confused here? They have their own special base but I didn’t think you use a sabot sleeve with them. I shoot Hornady SST’s sabots and they are hard as heck to push down the barrel unless I swab after every 2 shots. I have to Swab every two shots shooting from my bench Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Go ahead and use any primer with blackhorn and let me know how you make out Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

The above post is not true…..not all 209 primers are created equal. A standard 209 shot shell primer burns a bit hotter than those 209 primers marketed for MZ such as Remington Kleenbore or Winny 777 primers. These primers have less fouling and thus are good for MZ’s but they cannot all powder substitutes. You can use them with black powder substitutes like Pyrodex but you CANNOT use them with blackhorn 209 powder as they do not burn hot enough Blackthorn recommends CCI 209M or the Federal 209a primers So even though all of these are labeled 209 primers, there’s still differences among them Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

I have bought and sold a quite a few properties over the years and there’s quite a few factors involved in hunting land valuation. Certainly shooting 140” bucks is going to increase your valuation but in no way is it going to double of triple your price per acre. It means something emotional to you, but it doesn’t necessarily equate to huge increases in valuation. Here’s a few things that I’ve experienced: 1.) it’s always about location, location, location in real estate. Land in Wyoming, Ontario, Genesee, Livingston, Wayne, Orleans counties is almost always more expensive then land in Allegheny or Steuben counties as they are closer to Buffalo and/or Rochester and people pay for that convenience 2.)make sure you valuate the timber separately from the land itself. The average house realtor has no idea how to do this. Make sure you use a realtor that has experience valuations these types of things (Future forestry Consulting, Whitetail Properties are a few) 3.) level land is always more valuable then 45 degree hills. Although the hills are great topography for hunting, level land is more valuable for building 4.) Do you have utilities at the street or on property? 5.) Do/will you have deed restrictions or will you limit sub surface or timber rights? 6.) what are the current price per acre properties in your neck of the woods? This can at least give you a starting point. Yours may certainly be worth more but it can at least give you a floor. 7.) what sort of amenities do you have on your property? Orchards, big bucks, food plots , hinge cuts etc etc. these are important to hunters but not necessarily someone who is looking at your land as a future building lot I’d make sure you at least reach out to someone who has experience selling lots like this. As above, I gave you a few names. I’d do your homework and get sale price data on lots around you (keep in mind some of these might be lower than current value if they were arms length transactions or in family transactions - this is often done to keep tax assessments down). Find out what lots are going for. Also, you have a great situation with your neighbor as he is already willing to give you cash. Good luck!! Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

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Absolutely spectacular!!! Congrats to you and your family on a superb deer! P.S. - I also love your killer, lush food plots!!!!! Stay well Chris

I prosecute with DEC every time. It seems to be working. Also, I have a civil lawsuit ready to be filed on my assjoke neighbor if he trespasses one more time. It’s for $100,000.00. I worked with my attorney on it - proving that his footsteps are destroying future tree saplings that I have planted for my future logging....no more screwing around. If that doesn’t work, I will build a tiny cabin on property line so he cannot hunt just entire land anymore (he will be within 500’ of it) Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

So awesome!!!! Thanks so much for sharing these great pics!!! Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

His son in law checked me out Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app